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mort

Uh. Why in the world does installing NPM bring with it a bunch of X11 stuff??

List of apt packages installed as a result of 'sudo apt install npm', where some of the packages are x11-common, x11-utils and x11-server-utils
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Matt Campbell

@mort apt's default behavior of automatically installing recommended packages strikes again. Seeing if I can trace it back to a specific recommended package. Node.js and npm certainly don't require X11.

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Matt Campbell

@mort It seems the culprit is that nnpm recommends node-tap (some testing thing), which depends on some X11 and XDG stuff, which pulls in more X11 stuff via recommendations.

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@matt @mort why does it automatically do this? This is insane. Why cant package managers actually do what they're told?

I could understand if it were to "recommend" some packages, but automatically installing them alongside?

I'm happy I am not using apt.

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Emilis 🇺🇦

@Anachron @matt @mort I think this is probably Ubuntu-specific.

I'm using Debian with apt and haven't run into such problems ever.

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Matt Campbell

@emilis @Anachron @mort In my experience, apt installs recommended packages by default on both distros. The solution is the --no-install-recommends command-line option. I think you can also make that the default in a config file somewhere.

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Emilis 🇺🇦

@matt @Anachron @mort You are right.

It even tried installing x11 packages on a Raspbian server.

Now I wonder what other garbage I got installed with other packages.

Anyway, as a seasoned JS developer I recommend downloading archives from nodejs.org/en/download directly, extracting them in a local directory and symlinking the 3 binaries (node, npm, npx) into your PATH.

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