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Fedora is a community-driven project sponsored by Red Hat.

By writing news like "Red Hat presented Fedora KDE Edition" you do not just misrepresent the Fedora Project, you also undermine the effort of Fedora community members who did all the work to make KDE Spin into an Edition.

Please do recognize and give a credit to the community.

And if you have questions about Fedora governance, we are here - at discussion.fedoraproject.org, at release parties, on social networks, just ask

@bookwar
What about Red Hat wanting to add AI to Fedora?
@cmccullough

Captain Steph

@cmccullough
It was on the news beginning of the year. Made me switch to Debian 😂
@bookwar

@cmccullough
With flatpak and Docker, I'm not in a hurry. Also Gnome never change that much.
@bookwar

@sirber @bookwar I'm running Xfce and its not changed much, either. 😂

@sirber @cmccullough @bookwar

why switch to a different distro because of some vague bogeyman?

I'm not even sure what "add AI to Fedora" even is supposed to mean here. do you think it's bad that development of ML systems is being made easier on Fedora?

even if Red Hat wanted to put an evil LLM assistant into Fedora, that would still need to go through (community-driven!) approval process, and it would get laughed out of court.

@decathorpe @sirber @cmccullough @bookwar there is a concern I can see (and to a certain extent share) - if that starves resource allocation needed for other parts of Fedora.

That being said personally I’m still contributing to Fedora, even outside of work, though I do Debian on the side as well. Both are fine platforms and have different tradeoffs.

@michelin @decathorpe @sirber @cmccullough @bookwar But still, that seems like a place where you either discuss it and find out or wait and see, not flee to another distro because someone put effort into packaging pytorch that could have potentially been better spent elsewhere.

@michelin

Concerns like this have always been part of the Fedora Project. We as a project are sponsored by Red Hat, and we are driven by the community, but it doesn't mean we can tell Red Hat how to invest its own money in other projects.

@decathorpe @sirber @cmccullough

@michelin

The way I saw it so far though, is that we have Fedora resources and we have additional resources Red Hat spends on other initiatives.

And we (as Fedora Council) are actually constantly looking for ways how we can bring those initiatives to Fedora, because this brings _additional_ resources to the project.

In many cases it is not that Red Hat *forces* smth on community, it is that we as Fedora want to get more from our collaboration, where it fits

@decathorpe @sirber @cmccullough