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Fedora is a community-driven project sponsored by Red Hat.

By writing news like "Red Hat presented Fedora KDE Edition" you do not just misrepresent the Fedora Project, you also undermine the effort of Fedora community members who did all the work to make KDE Spin into an Edition.

Please do recognize and give a credit to the community.

And if you have questions about Fedora governance, we are here - at discussion.fedoraproject.org, at release parties, on social networks, just ask

@bookwar Yes, this. Because I'm pretty sure Red Hat did very little to enable this particular effort.

@johnmark @bookwar

It does not matter how much Red Hat did to enable it.

Fedora is done by Fedora Project members/community. Even if some of them are paid by Red Hat.

So Fedora KDE Edition was done by Fedora people. And presented by Fedora Project.

I am member of Fedora Project. And I am paid by Red Hat, use Fedora daily, use KDE as desktop.

@hrw @bookwar Yes all of that - it's unacceptable regardless. But *in addition* red hat also doesn't do jack for kde, thus adding insult to injury.

@johnmark @bookwar can you expand your opinion behind one sentence?

Throwing negative opinion is easy. Making it constructive criticism is hard. Try better.

@hrw @bookwar all KDE work has been an afterthought for decades now. I think they need to revisit that decision and become more active in the KDE upstream, beyond individual contributions from some employees.

I get the business need to focus on one specific desktop environment. I'm just saying Plasma offers more and seems to be moving ahead of GNOME.

Aleksandra Fedorova :fedora:

@johnmark

In the enterprise environment offering "more" is not always considered a benefit.

I mean, for a user - yes. For a provider of a service.. There is a reason why when going from Fedora to RHEL we reduce amount of packages from 20 000 to 2 000.

That being said, things change and evolve all the time. We will see.

And I believe that variety is good for Fedora as long as we can keep the quality good enough.

@hrw

@bookwar @hrw agreed - there's a lot that goes into that decision, and it is not something to take lightly.

But your original comment triggered memories about heated discussions in the past when I was there :)