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#ParthenonSculptures

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Elgin claimed he had a firman that gave him permission to take the sculptures. But…

"If a firman had ever existed, it would have been presented to the British Museum at the time of acquisition to affirm the marbles’ legitimacy. Instead, what we have is an Italian document claiming to be a translation"

Zeynep Boz, head of Turkey’s department for combating the illegal trafficking of antiquities.

ekathimerini.com/culture/12553

Cartoon about the meeting of UK's PM Keir Starmer with Greece's PM Kyriakos Mitsotakis. Mitsotakis appears on a sofa, missing his feet and hands, in a pose resembling one of the Parthenon Sculptures, while an exhausted Starmer cries: "0K Mr. Prime minister, I get it that you are raising the issue of the Parthenon Sculptures!‘" By Andreas Petroulakis - Kathimerini.gr 04.12.2024 Translated from the Greek original
#ParthenonSculptures#UK#BritishMuseum
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The temple was first destroyed by Theodosius' bigoted Christians in the 4th c CE, then by Venusian Francesco Morosini in the 17th c, who described his vandalism as "a fortunate shot" and went on smashing sculptures from the pediment in his attempt to loot the Acropolis, and then in the early 19th c by Lord Elgin, who stole about half of the sculptures that had survived 2000 years on the Sacred Rock.

Lord Byron's, "The Curse of Minerva": en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Wor

en.wikisource.orgThe Works of Lord Byron (ed. Coleridge, Prothero)/Poetry/Volume 1/The Curse of Minerva - Wikisource, the free online library
#ParthenonSculptures#UK#Poetry
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Looter Lord Elgin presented an Italian "translation" of a fake Ottoman firman, the original of which no one ever saw or had otherwise knowledge of, then ripped off the #ParthenonSculptures, sawing some in his haste, and moved them to England, where they were scraped clean of the ancient colors that still remained on them.

Turkiye's statement at #UNESCO that they "are not aware of any document that legitimizes that «purchase» done by coloni[al] #UK back at that time"

youtube.com/embed/hIF_Br8ZeT0?

YouTubeTwenty-fourth Session of the ICPRCPBy UNESCO
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The Parthenon scalptures are “not just random museum exhibits” and should return to Athens, says Lord Frost.

“I do think that Lord Elgin’s actions possibly were a little murky [...]"

A deal should include a collaborative campaign to encourage other countries, such as Denmark, Germany, Austria and France, which also have parts of the sculptures, to return the items to Greece.

theguardian.com/artanddesign/2
#ParthenonSculptures #UK #Denmark #Germany #Austria #France

The Guardian · Parthenon marbles should return to Athens, says Lord Frost By Lanre Bakare
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"Why the Parthenon sculptures became powerfully attached to British nationhood[...]: Britain needed symbols that could signify nationhood.
[...] Such investment [in the Parthenon sculptures] charted the course for a new conception of Britain as supra-nation."

Based on a paper by Fiona Rose-Greenland, Department of Sociology, University of Michigan

Article: ekathimerini.com/in-depth/anal

Paper (PDF):
ssc.wisc.edu/soc/pcs/wp-conten

www.ekathimerini.com · The notion of ‘Britishness’ and the Parthenon SculpturesBy Yiannis Papadopoulos
#Parthenon#ParthenonSculptures#UK
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Philip C James

The fate of the Elgin Marbles/Parthenon Sculptures had been pretty much settled - a fudge had pretty much been agreed that the British Museum would send the #ElginMarbles back to Greece on permanent 'loan'.

So why are #BBCaq and #AnyAnswers arguing about where the #ParthenonSculptures belong - England or Greece?

The topical question is what the feck was our PM Sunak doing snubbing our ally Greece's PM over their return?

Overt #BBCbias is to be deplored but beware INSIDIOUS BBC Bias as well.

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Philip C James

Parliament is going to bed early every sitting-day lately as our Zombie Government has run out of reasonable things to pass laws about, so believe Rishi Sunak when he says he can legislate quickly to declare Rwanda a Safe Country (and incidentally, that Bears Do NOT Shit In The Woods, and the Pope Is NOT Catholic).

So why the feck can Wishi Sunak not quickly legislate to authorise return of the Elgin Marbles to their origin in Greece?

#BBCaq #ParthenonSculptures
#GeneralElectionNow!

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hesgen

"PM furious Greece wants the stuff we stole from them back"

That's the English state for you.

When I've been robbed, Inspector Knacker nabbed the thief when he could be arsed, but the courts made no attempt to get my stuff back, or force the offender to compensate me. The same goes for fraud - the state keeps the proceeds of crime.

#ParthenonSculptures #ElginMarbles #theft #Greece

normalislandnews.substack.com/

Normal Island News · PM furious Greece wants the stuff we stole from them backBy Laura K
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Philip C James

Listened to the Today Programme on Radio 4.

So Rishi Sunak tetchily refused to meet the Greek PM cos he didn't want to face a request to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece (after the Turks sold them to Lord Elgin. Would you buy a dodgy second-hand carriage from the man?).

In other news, Scotland prepares to freely return two giant pandas to their Chinese homeland.

Guess which story #R4Today has chosen to cover?

#ParthenonSculptures
#GeneralElectionNow!
mas.to/@PhilipCJames/111492361

mas.toPhilip C James (@PhilipCJames@mas.to)Good Morning, all Am I trivialising this? I still cannot get over that our Prime Minister refused to meet the Greek Prime Minister when he arrived in the UK after he replied to a question on Briitsh telly about the Parthenon sculptures (aka Elgin Marbles). What a petulant, petty, childish approach to international diplomacy by Rishi Sunak. I bet he voted for Brexit... Good luck to the Greeks; I hope they recover their sculptures; it's clear Wishi Sunak has already lost his marbles. #GEnow!
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Barb Elliott :TheCDN2:

Oh the irony! Perhaps they could trade some of their in-museum stolen items for the ones they’re looking for!

flipboard.social/@CultureDesk/

FlipboardFlipboard Culture Desk (@CultureDesk@flipboard.social)Around 2,000 objects are missing from the British Museum, and it is calling for help in recovering them. Art expert Christopher A. Marinello tells NBC this undermines the museum's argument against returning treasures to colonized nations. “They’ve been saying, ‘These objects are much better preserved in the British Museum. We have much better security. We can’t trust that these objects would be safe in your countries.'" https://flip.it/_9Qlgv #Art #Culture #Museums #UnitedKingdom
#BritishMuseum#parthenonsculptures#greece
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si_irini

Let them finally free
Let them come home
Let them fulfill their destiny
Let them become again the symbols of freedom in the place where they were created

Can't you see it?

For 200 years you have held them hostage in your museum, the symbols of our struggle for freedom

The struggle of my ancestors for the freedom that the entire Western world is living today

Let them go home at last

Why won't you see it?

#AltText Photo from my collection from my visit to the British Museum On it the statues which were broken out of the Parthenon, by Lord Elgin
#AltText Photo from my collection from my visit to the British Museum On it the statues which were broken out of the Parthenon, by Lord Elgin
#britishmuseum#greece#acropolis
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