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I get the feeling too many people are sleeping on CentOS Stream because of how the CentOS #Linux EOL thing went down.
I mean sure, the messaging wasn't great but it happened and it is what it is. Don't let that detract from the greatness of the #CentOS Stream project in its own right and as a collaboration point for all the #RHEL based distros.
The gravity seems lost on most that for the first time ever the RHEL development process happens in the open. That's amazing. I love it. #community
@maxamillion there's still the high risk that CentOS stream versions just completely disappear if a new RHEL release comes out. Nobody wants to risk their business on an OS like that, otherwise they might as well run on Fedora Server releases with in place upgrade each six months.
@ragectl or, here's a wild idea, support the operating system your business relies on or pay someone who does.
@maxamillion that's a pivot from 'why did people stop using this free thing' to 'people should pay for thing'? I mean sure companies that can should support RHEL. But that won't be possible for a lot of CentOS users.
@ragectl I'm not saying there isn't a real world situation in which not paying for software is advantageous from certain perspectives, but my point still stands. Was the "I need one of these that costs no money" the only thing? If so, I feel like Stream still delivers but technically now with fixes even faster. Maybe I'm missing something though.
@maxamillion the perceived risk has changed greatly caused by the uncertainty of all the changes that created Stream. And users will rightly be cautious of coming back, now AlmaLinux and Rocky filled the mind share CentOS used to have
@ragectl that's fair. The artifact itself is different.
@maxamillion FWIW we moved to RHEL because we got our business case approved for it, otherwise we'd probably have waited for AlmaLinux or Rocky too
@maxamillion@fosstodon.org@ragectl I'm a Red Hatter so RHEL is always first on my list for all the reasons (it was first on my list long before I worked here, I used to pay for personal subscriptions of RHEL for many years prior to employment because I believe in voting with my wallet). I think Alma is a solid choice, I like their governance model. I'm pretty sure Rocky is a slow burning grift by a dude who likes to claim he was a CentOS Founder and who's startup has complete control over the project. YMMV.
@maxamillion yeah I have been pointing a couple of people towards AlmaLinux