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After annoying my very pro #Apple / #developer friend about #linux, #NixOS and my #FrameworkLaptop , he had to pick one up to play.
He kinda assumed it would be a toy compared to his M1 pro...
It's not :). Pretty cool
@dottorblaster@fosstodon.org@codemonkeymike I’m honestly surprised because to me every other CPU compared to an M Apple CPU *is* a toy, the Framework Laptop is astonishingly great tho. How about the battery life?
@dottorblaster I can't speak for him. But my AMD ryzen framework gets around 9 hours real world.
Which is about what I was getting playing around with the M1 MacBook air with the same workload
@codemonkeymike legit. My girlfriend’s MacBook Pro is way better than that, it can last for days, but it’s cool at least we on the Linux side can compete at least with the Air.
I’m *really* looking forward to the ThinkPad T14s ARM when it gets decent support, also
@dottorblaster ME TOO.. I keep holding my breath waiting for the killer Linux Arm laptop..
I'm turning blue...
@dottorblaster i did inherit my wife's old M1 Air, and did the whole #asahi Linux thing on it.
And I was honestly impressed with HOW MUCH is natively running for Arm64 on linux already, with a few gaps.
But dealing with the Mac keyboard layout in linux was just awkward and frustrating
@codemonkeymike I can relate, I just want a native Linux experience on my favorite laptop indeed, I have to say the MacBook is my second favorite laptop ever tho so… 
@codemonkeymike the biggest problem I've had with Linux on M1 is the x86 OS emulation/virtualization. Qemu is really slow at it and when your primary architecture at work is still x86, it's a limitation.
But maybe we won't even need ARM laptops. The latest generation of mobile Intel chipsets lasts 15-20h on battery for real. It is comparable to Apple M, in such benchmarks the battery life is even better.
@pavel @codemonkeymike @dottorblaster it's very much possible. I plan laptop purchases in 3-year cycles and right now for the next 3 years I would still get an x86 laptop.
@sesivany if the T14s with the Snapdragon w/ Linux becomes an actual thing that would be my next laptop, I'm desperately waiting :D
@sesivany @dottorblaster what x86 did you have to emulate?
@codemonkeymike @dottorblaster Fedora or RHEL running in virt-manager.
@sesivany @codemonkeymike yeah that's hellish slow from what I know, I'd like to have first hand experience with that but... not enough money for now 
@codemonkeymike no please don’t die
@dottorblaster well thankfully the Framework has saved my life. It's easily my favorite laptop i've owned since my 2012 Macbook Pro I loved so dearly..
@codemonkeymike I literally stopped a guy on a train like a stalker some weeks ago: “Is that the framework laptop? Sorry… can I touch it?”
I’m sure they must have though I was some kind of computer pervert
@dottorblaster @codemonkeymike dude... Aren't we all? 
@dottorblaster haha that's funny. I had a guy at a coffee shop chat me up about the framework as well.
He was like. Omg Ive never seen one in person.
I let him touch it lol. Needless to say he said he was ordering one when he got home hah
@codemonkeymike basically my experience but I don't have the money right now LOL I just stopped the guy, actually a guy running Fedora on it and asked him "is it... is it an _actual_ Framework laptop? Can I have a closer look?"
He was laughing his arse off
@codemonkeymike @dottorblaster i really want work to go framework on next laptop refresh.
Here's to hoping corporate does not force us to make the choice between windows and Mac