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@underseamonkey i understand your thinking but i think it is a bit to much. In it’s essence you can’t describe a distro as contry X tech. Foss is a worlwide effort, one of people who are not the ones that threaten freedom and stability. No matter the country of origin. Avoiding American closed source software and services on the other hand is somthing that has my full support as they hold more than a few strings of that orange muppet.