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Estaba escuchando el episodio de abajo sobre #Allende y #Cybersyn... El podcast los Santiago boys no está en castellano, no? Saben?
Lo vi en inglés y no sé si catalán...

Por otro lado...
Habrá alguna #ucronia donde los soretes no nos roban el futuro?

Todo es Fake: Contra #SiliconValley - Evgeny #Morozov

🗓️ 20/7/25 • 🕑 29:22 • 📁 42 MB

Podcast: #AnfibiaOriginales
Author: #AnfibiaPodcast

Web player: podcastaddict.com/anfibia-orig
Episode: anchor.fm/s/81ed5a4/podcast/pl

#Evgeny Morozov, investigador bielorruso, visitó Argentina para contar su proyecto “The #SantiagoBoys”. Un podcast documental sobre el internet socialista que pensaron un grupo de ingenieros de Chile durante la presidencia de Salvador Allende. ¿Se puede imaginar otro proyecto así en la actualidad? ¿Se puede crear una IA de izquierda?En este nuevo episodio de #TodoEsFake grabado en la UNSAM, Tomás Pérez Vizzón conversó con Morozov, una de las mentes más lúcidas para hablar de la tecnología.Todos los martes una conversación sobre la tecnología y el mundo en que vivimos en la casa de Spotify Argentina. Idea y conducción: Tomás Pérez Vizzon Producción: India Molina Arte e identidad audiovisual: Sebastián Angresano y Francesca Cantore Música original: Mateo Corra Comunicación: Patricio Pellegrini

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@tante free software should be for ourselves and for others who are like us.

yes, free software has enough licenses but lacks good communities and community structure. look at how fsf keeps rms as voting board member.

the first goal of free software must be to provide technology that supports the free software community itself in organizing it. this is also the first step of a broader, general revolution resulting in global cyber council communism.

screw free software (i mean i love it but), i want liberating software!

Someone suggested this video on cybernetic economics to me. Certainly looks promising!

#Cybernetics #Cybersyn #Chile

yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=RJLA

PlasticPills | InvidiousCybersocialism: Project Cybersyn & The CIA Coup in Chile (Full Documentary by Plastic Pills)Any description here must be prefaced by gratitude to the couple hundred people that made this project possible. I hope it lives up to the vision I presented to you all, those months ago. If you want to see content like this show up online, it needs your support. I have gained some experience these past 4 months, particularly that big projects are a bad idea for small channels. Unfortunately I am yet beholden to a shadowy algorithmic god who does not reward production value or effort, only the frequency of uploads. You can help by either buying a ticket to the bonus content, or by sharing it around if that isn't viable, and maybe then I can do more like this in the future. There are already a bunch of videos of the creation process on Patreon. https://patreon.com/plasticpills We have some follow-up content on the Plasticpills podcast. Here is the first episode on a series about Cybernetics and Systems Theory https://youtu.be/tMReLjh10tc, and here is a link to the companion episode for this documentary: https://youtu.be/pFtPCvhf6io The public podcast can be found wherever you get podcasts (PlasticPills - Philosophy & Critical Theory). All exclusive episodes are up on Patreon. Translations by/traducido al español por Carlos Salinas, Traductor de la Universidad de La Serena, Chile; contact for ESP/ENG (salinas.carlos073@protonmail.com) -- Works Cited If you are looking for a reading list, start with Eden Medina's "Cybernetic Revolutionaries," which is the definitive study of the Cybersyn project. (Maybe you can find it at your local indie bookstore? Ha. Maybe Barnes & Noble is a less exploitative employer? Ha. Here's the Amazon link but if you're moral you'll wait till the revolution to order it): https://amzn.to/3fvES2l If you are led to believe this is all propagating conspiracy theory, here is official, mostly unredacted US Senate Committee Report from the mid 1970s: https://www.archives.gov/files/declassification/iscap/pdf/2010-009-doc17.pdf Stafford Beer's "Brain of the Firm" explains in detail the application of viable systems theory to organizations, and in it, Beer offers his reflections on Project Cybersyn post-hoc: https://amzn.to/3yY5pwG Other sources cited include: "The Pinochet File" by Peter Kornbluh (https://amzn.to/2WSB0C1) "Chile 1973: The Other 9/11" by David Francois (https://amzn.to/3ftgiPC) "Successful Neoliberalism?" by Ashley Davis-Hamel, paywalled by an academic conglomerate here: https://www.jstor.org/stable/41887539 Timestamps 0:00 Intro 7:51 Cybernetics 12:04 The Designers of Cybersyn 20:11 Project Cybersyn 28:08 The Empire Strikes Back 46:57 The October Strike 50:22 Democracy Dies in Chile

"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.

'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."

#EvgenyMorozov, 2023

the-santiago-boys.com/episodes

The Santiago BoysThe Santiago BoysThis is a podcast about a continent that dared to dream big - and challenge the power of Big Tech before Big Tech was a thing.

Soft architecture and intelligent environments, a patented device to allow remote partners to grasp one another’s virtual hands, an endorsement by McLuhan, and a protege named Nicholas Negroponte — what was going on on the East coast of the US as Douglas Englebart was putting together the mother of all demos.

Eugene Morozov promotes his new podcast (“A sense of rebellion”) in this OpEd piece in the Boston Globe:

bostonglobe.com/2024/06/15/opi

Well, that sounds cool, but in reading this I learned that Morozov did a podcast about the Allende government’s Project Cybersyn — a cybernetic network to coordinate Chile’s economy, with teletypes to factories and a control room with giant information displays. Morozov’s podcast on that topic is “The Santiago Boys”. That’s more my jam, so the Boston hippies podcast will have to wait.

The first episode of that podcast sets the context: the political situation in late-60s Chile and the election of Allende, the plotting of Kissinger, Nixon, and ITT to nip this notion of elected socialism in the bud.

The Boston Globe · Warren Brodey and the Boston hippies who dreamed of humane techBy ["Evgeny Morozov"]

#DistributedDemocracy #Decentralization #NetworkedFederalism #CyberSyn #Socialism: "Just as liberalism is flawed in its calls for democracy to extend only to parliamentary representation, the core internet protocols are flawed in their assumption that distribution need only apply to network topology. We have seen the consequences of asking private enterprise to construct a distributed system: centralisation, monopolisation. Just as we demand more democracy than offered by parliaments, we should demand more distribution than offered by private telecommunications. Distribution can only be achieved in this sense via socialisation.

Effective network design demands collective, not private governance. If the private market cannot distribute the network itself, as we have seen it cannot, we will need to find new protocols which can achieve this. And there is no reason to limit this aspiration to topology; we could also distribute computing power. If “the cloud” offers the appearance of distribution, a socialist network might achieve the real thing: equitable access to the power of computation, autonomy over algorithms, open and public archives, digital democracy.

We can go beyond the existing conceptions of distribution to build four necessary protocols for a socialist network:

- Distribute network topology (a demand already latent in TCP/IP)
- Distribute computing power
- Socialise communication
- Socialise the development of network infrastructure itself

The question of how to go about socialising these things remains an open one, but however weak the left might be in this domain today, we are not without options."

autonomy.work/portfolio/we-do-

The Autonomy Institute'We do not yet know what a network can do': steps to a collective internetLiam Mullally's fourth blog looks towards a collective internet, beyond the ossified and individualised network architecture of today.

El solo de theremin de luz fue uno de los puntos cúlmines de la presentación de #Cybersyn en la muestra de #artes #Cybercirujas Pasamos de duo a trío con la incorporación de Meli que armó y programó el #theremin sensible a la #luz En esta presentación usamos dos batalladoras netbooks #ConectarIgualdad
fediverse.tv/w/hA2cM2forKd5sDm
#noise #8bit #sonicPi #livecoding

La sala de operaciones de Cybersyn / Synco recreada en el Centro Cultural de La Moneda, Chile. Parte de la muestra "Cómo diseñar una revolución. La vía chilena al diseño". Un proyecto que trabajó el cómputo y sus redes para la planificación y toma de decisiones industriales y económicas con una mirada popular del desarrollo. (1971-1973). #Cybersyn #Synco

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@michaelgraaf this made me think of the podcast the-santiago-boys.com which is about the #cybersyn project “to liberate Chile from the yoke of the tech giant ITT to the #SantiagoBoys’ attempts to build their own cutting-edge #cybernetic system for managing the Chilean economy (Project Cybersyn), Allende’s efforts will continue inspiring our own struggles for technological autonomy” I think you might like it 😊

The Santiago BoysThe Santiago BoysThis is a podcast about a continent that dared to dream big - and challenge the power of Big Tech before Big Tech was a thing.