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#XSF Announcement
Today the #XMPP Standards Foundation publishes an Open Letter to urge #Meta to adopt XMPP for messaging #interoperability.
It’s time for real interoperability. Let’s make it happen.
https://xmpp.org/announcements/open-letter-meta-dma/
#jabber #chat #rtc
#opensource #decentralization #standard #dma
@Polychrome @xmpp the technical briefing has a good overview of the history: https://xmpp.org/announcements/open-letter-meta-dma/technical-briefing/
Reading an open letter to Meta is strange for me. Don't we know the history? Has it taught us nothing? What are the objectives of these companies?
Reading "XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) is ready to collaborate" and "Let’s work together to build a truly interoperable, open, and competitive messaging future.", for me is dangerous and worrying.
Talking about "competitiveness" and not about "sharing" is a problem for me.
Companies research "competitiveness", free protocols, Free Software, research "sharing".
@thevril @ralphm @xmpp I had somewhat the same reaction on first glance. But when I clicked through and read it, I see this is in the context of the Digital Markets Act. And at least to my ears "competition" reads as a reference to competition law (antitrust law in US terminology). I'm still wary (in ways too complicated to fit in a microblog post), though.
@soaproot @thevril @xmpp I understand that sentiment. But understand that Open Standards go beyond Free Software. We also have closed source implementations and proprietary services. The distributed extensibility allows for custom extensions. Because the protocol is open, anyone can participate. These are good things.
@Polychrome @xmpp That’s what I was going to say. They specifically removed standards compliance. Facebook messenger also used to have an email bridge so it worked with the biggest open messaging standard ever; SMTP! Also removed of course.
3946] @xmpp It's also legally required in the EU, right?
@tessarakt @xmpp the context of Meta's proposals and our open letter and technical briefing is the EU Digital Markets Act (DMA). The so-called gatekeeper must provide adequate interoperability, but "how" is not (yet) mandated.
@xmpp Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. That's the predictable strategy all big corps will take: to use Open Standards as a ladder they can climb up, to popularity and profit. Then kick the ladder out from under them. Gullibility in this regard will only set back Open Standards for a very long time. #XMPP should have pretty much taken over the world by now, but was passed over time and again by the likes of Meta and Google/Alphabet, who usurped it, then betrayed it.
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But why.
I know that my kitchen sink and the septic tank both use pipes, but I would never want them to mix up.
Lascapi ⁂ @xmpp How can I help to make it works?
@lascapi There are multiple ways. It can start with using the network and talk about up to support and engage in development. That could be on the protocol as well as XMPP clients and beyond software such as servers. Development support can also be helping as a tester. Of course you can also follow and promote our channels.
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I mean interoperability.
Actually I'm writing a proposal for the NGI0 found in this direction.
I want to build an e2e test environment to test interoperability with xmpp, sip and matrix clients to start with.
Does this sound like a good idea?