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Is this a good time to bring up my deeply held belief that people should be allowed to vote in elections even if they are convicted felons
@mcc I think they should vote even if they are in prison. That might bring attention to the overpopulation in prisons, and we might see improvements on how we treat humans we convict.
@Catawu @mcc Prisoners don't vote in sufficient numbers to make much difference. If they did, I'd have other objections.
I recently discovered I don't like criminals having any say in the laws of the land. When they are rehabilitated, they can vote again.
Democracy is too blunt an instrument for improving prisons
@woo Take one day off from work, and visit your county's circuit court on a criminal calendar day. You might have a television and movie version of justice and criminality stuck in your mind. The real system is a meat grinder that chews up desperate people who couldn't stay on the treadmill. Rehabilitation is never a consideration.
Disenfranchisement is the ones who make the laws of the land deciding who they don't want to represent. They criminalize those that they wish to ignore.
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@woo @Catawu @mcc I dunno, but I don't think it's a coincidence that (a) much of the USA denies felons the right to vote, and (b) the USA mass-produces felons on a scale unsurpassed by almost any other country in the world.
I get the feeling that a lot of these people behind bars shouldn't be there in the first place.
@juergen_hubert @woo @Catawu @mcc The U.S. incarceration system literally is a response to a seemingly-harmless clause in the 13th Amendment: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, >>>except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted<<<, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Slavers and other racists realized that mass prosecution of Blacks could partially reinstate slavery, and then that, hey, cool, it also can be used to keep them from voting!