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Natanael Copa

I am trying to balance "don't break things" vs "move forward" in . Right now it feels like everything is broken, but at least we are moving forward(?).

One thing that does feel good though, is that a lot of friendly people are working hard to fix things as quick as possible. None of this would be possible without you.

@ncopa i know the feeling ;-) it's a seasonal flu...

@ncopa if it is, i hadn't noticed! lots of VMs running 3.20 over here...

@silhouette Using 3.20 instead of edge was probably a good idea 😅

@ncopa Not using alpine but out of curiosity what is broken? 🤔

@Gromit

- abuild. Hopefully it is not broken anymore, after various emergency fixes.

- I am also wrestling with llvm/clang 19
and there are various issues, but thankfully Celeste has helped a lot. I believe something will break once I push (build of firefox?)

- /usr merge. driven by pm OS people. I'm trying to stay out of the way. they do good.

- fortify-header upgrade. third try. still no go, segfault in kernel build (no time to follow up)

@Gromit

llvm19 and fortify-headers are not merged yet so not yet broken. It is also why I said "*feels* broken". Feels like everything I touch breaks. Hopefully it is not as bad as it feels.

@ncopa let me just say, I 110% know the feeling of breaking everything I touch 😅

On the bright side, it's usually not as bad as I think it is.

You're doing an excellent job w/ Alpine 🎉

@ncopa @Gromit

>/usr merge

Right. I'm packaging some stuff by myself, and that change left my system unbootable (cause I wasn't aware of it)

@f
Thanks!

Right now it feels like I'm only pressing "merge", observe things break, and then observing it getting fixed by others and then hit "merge" again.

@ncopa sounds like the default state of linux to me...

@ncopa it's not surprising hits bumps. It's the risk of trying so many different and often cutting edge things with a relatively small user base. Good luck getting all the bits to align again. Alpine is cool. I do a lot of distro testing for in vm, and Alpine stood out to me as very interesting.

@ncopa honestly Alpine has been the most long-term stable, lightweight, simple, intuitive distro I have used.