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David Reed

and are both totalizing systems. They require big ecosystems and large user investment because they expect the entire system to work "their way". (I use and like them both).

Are there build systems exploring more interoperability with off-the-shelf tools like npm, pip, cargo, and friends? Building interfaces to define reproducible steps, cache units, all that good stuff?

@aoristdual whoever invents that wins computing. but, so far, all the prior efforts to make step halfway through the chasm between 20th century systems and Nix have failed

@aoristdual nx is pretty good. It’s not as daunting to pick up as Bazel, but not as powerful either. Really good tool if you largely work with JS/TS