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@shom@fosstodon.orgI keep seeing more and more people trying to delete their Stack Overflow contributions. While I understand and agree with the frustration, that only hurts regular humans using traditional search to get help. SO/OpenAI will likely use a snapshot dataset that is already backed up.
Let's encourage each other to leave walled gardens and take our knowledge with, burning it down only serves to lock up the knowledge and make it exclusive to the “AI”.
https://shom.dev/posts/20240507_enshittification-protests-beget-more-enshittification/
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> While I understand and agree with the frustration, that only hurts regular humans using traditional search to get help.
It does hurt people trying to use that service.
But the options to withdraw consent for use of one's contribution to the #OpenAI maw, are limited. Deletion is the only effective option.
That option is blunt and causes damage, yes. And that's the fault of #StackOverflow owners, it's not the fault of contributors.
@bignose you're absolutely right! It's not the fault of the contributors.
The contributors posted to help fellow humans not the corporation. By deleting their contributions now, they're achieving the opposite result. The corporations have already extracted the value, but humans looking for answers can no longer find it. I do not want anyone to keep contributing to walled gardens, contribute to community spaces/personal sites, etc. Hopefully my linked post above clarifies with more nuance.
Aren't the edit histories of #StackOverflow posts cached? If so, I don't understand why deletion would be a fruitful form of protest.
@BigEatie agreed! At least with deface/deletion the regular user can look at edit history to may be find the answer (probably not since it'll get dropped off search indexes). Using GDPR to completely remove the answer leaves the average user no recourse.
As for what happens to data that was used for training and now has been redacted via GDPR, that legal battle will take a while to play out. And in this case because the content was CC-BY-SA, it can stay in the training set anyway.
@bignose @shom Mass deletion does not really do that much damage. If anything, it gives more work to the unpaid volunteers still curating the platform, and to the unpaid elected moderators to lock posts and suspend the offender.
Best to vote with your feet, or post a new statement here: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/399619/our-partnership-with-openai