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Lol at talking to non-profits from a anarchist mutual aid standpoint.

0: "So... we're just not used to how you are doing things. It's very new and exciting! But I'm not sure if it's aligned with what we do."

1: "We're... we're doing the exact same thing.... and we're doing it in a normal way.... and an old way... what do you mean?"

0: "It's just... well... we're used to a top down non-profit approach where people write grant requests and get a lot of money and then... well I'm not sure what they do with the money... but you all are just, well, going out there and doing it. Without any money. Or formal organization."

1: "Yeah... alright... umm... So you wanna work together or not?"

0: "Frankly you scare us."

1: "Yeah, I get that a lot."

(Side note, we have a person who works in corporate consulting and can speak non-profit language really well... she has volunteered to have us shut up and only let her speak. We all think that's the best idea going forward."

0: "Do you have a grant writing person or a formal donation campaign?"

1: What would we use money for?

People pick up food and drop it off. They volunteer their time and gas/electricity/feet-movement and get some food out of it.

Do you... do you wanna pitch over a fiver for gas? That'd help! Or I just bought some bags to store some bread in from the bakery... I guess I could use 2 dollars to that end...

Wait... what are YOU using money for?

0: "Well.. we have to pay the guy who writes grants and organizes donation campaigns."

1: Huh...

Moz

@tinker 100% this.

I'm part of one group that definitely does spend money, a couple of hundred dollars every year. Our local MP helped us apply for a grant so now we have thousands of dollars in a bank account.

Luckily we have an organising committee to open the bank account and organise spending the money. They keep arguing about who to donate the excess to, or what to spend it on (my input: let it sit there, it's not worth arguing about).

@moz @tinker
I think the problem is you can't let it sit there because that would make it "profit" and you would no longer be a non-profit.

This is the issue with non-profits. They have to spend everything they take in. It becomes a trap for waste.

@cshlan @tinker That may apply to registered non-profits in some places, and if so that IMO would be a reason not to register.

Where I am (Australia/NSW) there's a bunch of options starting from 'incorporated association" which is paperwork in exchange for being able to have a bank account :)

fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/associa

NSW Fair Trading · About associationsInformation about incorporated associations in NSW.