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Laurent Gatto

Has anyone any experience with alternatives, self hosted or otherwise? I've been reading up, but it would be useful to hear from somebody that has practical experience.

@lgatto We are using #Zulip (not self-hosted, but sponsored version for research organizations) and I can recommend it

@jlukavsky thanks, good to know. I just saw that offer, and it feels like the easiest option.

@jlukavsky do you have a sense of what 'up 10 GB of file storage per user' actually entails in terms of real life usage. It does sound more than enough.

@lgatto Here using the matrix-powered Elements. As matrix is an open protocol, there are lots of clients.

I use this chat a lot when communicating w people outside our lab and with the university's IT staff.
Roughly similar to Slack, but slightly less flashy.

(Also, IRC is still around... :-D )

@dryak thank you. Do you self host?

I would be keen on IRC, but the younger generation maybe not so much :-)

@lgatto My university does. One server for staff, one for students.
All federated (so I can cross-post to Gitter where I still have a support channel for some of our projects)

@lgatto Matrix protocol with any of the fancy clients.

@jkanche thank you for the suggestion

@lgatto @jkanche I also have previous experience with Rocket and it was good to chat. Self-hosted by the Max-Plank institute I used to work at.

@keyboardpipette @jkanche thanks! It's indeed great when the institution hosts and manages the software.

@lgatto We've used matrix and the element client for a couple of years. It's very reliable, and seems secure.

@jaymoore thank you, good to know. Do you self host?

@lgatto we don't host a server, so I guess we use matrix.org

@lgatto Matrix is pretty nice as a protocol it's nice to have a choice of different clients but element the 'flagship' is a little heavy. The matrix foundation seems chronically underfunded. Zulip has a slightly different design to most of the slack clones but it is lightning fast - little bit more learning curve but I'd say great for technical teams. Rocket chat is very nice, mature, snappy, featureful, and working on matrix compatibility, no official 'Sass' version so you have to host.

@lgatto We have been using the #zulip sponsored plan for research organizations for about two weeks So far so good

@alesssia thank you for sharing your experience!

@lgatto @keyboardpipette we're using Mattermost, self-hosted on our server. It works very good, transition (usage) from slack was smooth. main reasons for it: was already connected to a mattermost workspace on another server and didn't want to have yet another client/app

@jorainer @keyboardpipette thank you, good to know. Is is managed by the institute's admins?

@lgatto @keyboardpipette yes, but they did not complain that it's too complicated to setup or manage - and seems also secure since our admins are supercareful