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Mailing lists are in kind of a death spiral, projects like Linux will likely use them into the foreseeable future but as other projects move away from them it becomes harder to on board people, leading to more projects doing away with them, leading to on boarding being harder.

@BrodieOnLinux Slightly off-topic but I’m so mad at the LKML for leaking my private mail address in plaintext to web archives for the spammers. Had expected more circumspection.

@frumble The archives are simply just an archive of the emails so that sort of had to happen. I get the annoyance but there are email redirection services you could use if that's super important.

@BrodieOnLinux I know know but it’s already too late. I expected the archive to abbreviate the addresses. And I read some introduction info for the ML but nothing warned me about them feeding my mail address to the spammers -.-

@frumble I guess the main ones could and probably should do that but there would always be another one that doesn't

@BrodieOnLinux To rebind with your thread: It’s obscure tech and has its deceits.

Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

@frumble @BrodieOnLinux Most mailing list systems do this, just Linux's never did. And the lore archiver doesn't either. Fedora's mailing lists flat out don't show email addresses anymore for this reason.

@frumble @BrodieOnLinux Offhand? HyperKitty and Apache Pony Mail do, as did the older Pipermail. Various archivers for Majordomo and mlmmj either did or didn't depending on whether the admin bothered. Sympa does not, though it tries to use interactive clickthroughs to stymie scrapers.

@Conan_Kudo @frumble Speaking of Fedora's mailing list, I think part of the issue with most archives is they're a completely indecipherable mess. Fedora's more forum like interface with HyperKitty isn't perfect but it's so much easier to navigate than the standard plain text wall of the normal LKML archives.

@BrodieOnLinux @frumble Fedora created HyperKitty precisely to make mailing lists easier. It was @mairin's brainchild. I'm happy to see more communities adopt it for their mailing lists in recent years.