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JannekeTL:DR; can you recommend an email provider that supports sieve and works for email based development and doesn't block/reject any valid emails?Okay. I've been doing email based development for over 25y now using the amazing, multiple times award winning internetprovider <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a>.Sadly, xs4all was killed by the Dutch telecom giant <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/KPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KPN</a>. Email-wise this means that <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/sieve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sieve</a> support was dropped and a helpdesk is virtually non-existing.So I switched to <a href="https://mastodon.social/@freedominternet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@freedominternet</a> but they don't have the skills to do email and outsourced it to <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/soverin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#soverin</a>. They do support sieve (sort of via a clumsy web interface), but they keep rejecting valid emails (some four a day) sent to development lists. The helpdesk takes weeks to respond with a useless answer. This is terrible.Self-hosting (as we did in the old days) might be an option but I'm not up to date with what is needed. A <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/Guix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Guix</a> recipe for an email server setup with dovecot and sieve would be amazing here (but knowledge on how to create that seems hard to get <<a href="https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2024-09/msg00017.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2024-09/msg00017.html</a>>)Anyway until we have that, any amazing email provider can you recommend?Cc: <a href="https://mastodon.nl/@angrynerdspodcast" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@angrynerdspodcast</a> <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/askFedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#askFedi</a> <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/dtv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dtv</a>

ErikTeletekst screen circa 2006 for Service provider XS4ALL. “Due to a disruption, we can’t show disruptions on teletekst. We’re sorry for the inconvenience.” Someone had a sense of humor. <a href="https://typo.social/tags/teletekst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#teletekst</a> <a href="https://typo.social/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a>

M DellFelipe Rodriquez, oprichter van Xs4all en De Digitale Stad, overleden (2015) <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OtD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OtD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XS4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4all</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FelipeRodriquez" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FelipeRodriquez</a> <a href="https://www.parool.nl/nieuws/felipe-rodriquez-oprichter-van-xs4all-en-de-digitale-stad-overleden~bd7fed37/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.parool.nl/nieuws/felipe-rodriquez-oprichter-van-xs4all-en-de-digitale-stad-overleden~bd7fed37/</a>

Janneke<a href="https://mastodon.social/@freedominternet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@freedominternet</a> <a href="https://hostux.social/@fsf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fsf</a> After four weeks, Freedom still rejects email from GNU.ORG (technically EGGS.GNU.ORG). No update on my ticket and still relying on my old <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a> email address.

Digital Human ✔Verrijk je zomer met de beste technologieboeken volgens tweakers <a href="https://www.trendingtech.news/trending-news/2024/06/18376/verrijk-je-zomer-met-de-beste-technologieboeken-volgens-tweakers" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.trendingtech.news/trending-news/2024/06/18376/verrijk-je-zomer-met-de-beste-technologieboeken-volgens-tweakers</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tweakers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tweakers</a> techboeken <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/technologieboeken" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#technologieboeken</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a> geschiedenis <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Twitter</a> schandalen <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chipproductie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chipproductie</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Trending" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trending</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#News</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nieuws" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nieuws</a>

@𝕗𝕕𝟘@𝕓𝕤𝕕.𝕟𝕖𝕥𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕜Het kost wat tijd maar dan heb je ook wat😎 <a href="https://exquisite.social/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a>

Sjous<a href="https://toon.social/@toon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@toon</a> Ik zou dan als ik jou was, overstappen naar de internet profider <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Freedom</a>. Opvolger van <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a>. Freedom is een etische profider die er alles aan zal doen om je mail intenet etc zo prive mogelijk te houden en in Nederland verwerkt.

Marcel KolderNa 3 decennia bij <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a> en later de <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/KPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KPN</a> te hebben gezete nu weg. Laatste jaren slechte verbindingen, ondanks de glasvezel en 200 MB en vele telefoontjes. Het scheelt me ook 50 euro per maand en een hoop frustraties bij mijn gezin omdat we al jaren elke dag het modem moesten herstarten.

SargassoRecensie | De hackers die Nederland veranderden <a href="https://sargasso.nl/recensie-de-hackers-die-nederland-veranderden/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://sargasso.nl/recensie-de-hackers-die-nederland-veranderden/</a> <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/Cultuur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cultuur</a>&Media <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/boekrecensie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#boekrecensie</a> <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/Hack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hack</a>-tic <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/Internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Internet</a> <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/hackers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hackers</a> <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://social.sargasso.nl/tags/XS4All" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4All</a>

Vincent 🌻🇪🇺NAPS4ALL! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hackers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hackers</a>

Koen de Jonge - SynQ<a href="https://mstdn.social/@locuta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@locuta</a> ik heb mijn account op ‘The Company Formerly Known as Twitter’ nog, voornamelijk om mensen af en toe aan te sporen om hier naartoe te komen.Een Bluesky account heb ik niet aangemaakt omdat het platform niet open is. Ik heb het overwogen, maar met de boeken van <a href="https://waag.social/@marleenstikker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@marleenstikker</a> en <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rohy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rohy</a> op mijn nachtkastje kan ik dat niet doen.In het kader <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/HackerEthics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HackerEthics</a> en <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/HackTic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HackTic</a> en <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a> is de <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> de enige juiste <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/open" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#open</a> keuze.

Koen de Jonge - SynQOeh “Spioneren voor de KGB” het wordt steeds spannender in <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/DeHackersDieNederlandVeranderden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeHackersDieNederlandVeranderden</a> En ik maar denken dat <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a> zo’n braaf clubje was. 😎

Vincent 🌻🇪🇺Binnen! Benieuwd, weekend leesvoer… <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Appeltaart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Appeltaart</a>

Koen de Jonge - SynQ<a href="https://chaos.social/@bitsoffreedom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bitsoffreedom</a> ik zie dat jullie op Twitxer dit gepost hebben. Waarom niet hier op de <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> ? Misschien moeten we toch nog eens praten over een eigen presence op de <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> Vanaf vandaag is het boek "De hackers die Nederland veranderden" door journalist en schrijver <a href="https://mastodon.social/@rohy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rohy</a> verkrijgbaar bij <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/uitgeverijpodium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#uitgeverijpodium</a> over de, volgens de kaft, spannende geschiedenis van XS4ALL.<a href="https://procolix.social/tags/hackers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hackers</a> <a href="https://procolix.social/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a> <a href="https://uitgeverijpodium.nl/product/9190/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://uitgeverijpodium.nl/product/9190/</a>

Eelco Mulder :mastodon:<a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Freedom</a> wordt <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a>. Wie had dat gedacht. Teletekst in ieder geval wel!<a href="https://freedom.nl/nieuwsartikel/freedom-heet-vanaf-zaterdag-xs4all" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://freedom.nl/nieuwsartikel/freedom-heet-vanaf-zaterdag-xs4all</a>

L⭕️rd Quux RCX CCXGefeliciteerd ⁦@FreedomNetNL⁩. Die zag ik niet aankomen <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a>

Maarten den Braber<a href="https://mastodon.nl/@lijn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lijn</a> usenet! Die hadden we natuurlijk ook nog. Ja dat was ook een feest. En IRC <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/demon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#demon</a> 😄

PA0ETEVolgens het Actiecomité XS4ALL moet blijven beëindigt KPN per 1 oktober alle XS4ALL-diensten, dit tegen de gemaakte afspraken en beloften van de afgelopen maanden in. <a href="https://wokka.be/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a>, <a href="https://wokka.be/tags/xs4allmoetblijven" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4allmoetblijven</a> <a href="https://wokka.be/tags/kpn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#kpn</a> <a href="https://wokka.be/tags/freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#freedom</a>.nl

sαη∂εя✨Topman KPN: ‘Het is mijn valkuil om zelf overal in te duiken’ - NRCJoost Farwerck, topman <a href="https://quey.org/tags/KPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KPN</a>Joost Farwerck bluste al talloze brandjes bij KPN. De nieuwe topman over <a href="https://quey.org/tags/Huawei" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Huawei</a> en <a href="https://quey.org/tags/WeChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WeChat</a>, <a href="https://quey.org/tags/XS4ALL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XS4ALL</a>, <a href="https://quey.org/tags/5G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#5G</a> en <a href="https://quey.org/tags/glasvezel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#glasvezel</a><a href="https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2020/02/01/het-is-mijn-valkuil-om-zelf-overal-in-te-duiken-a3988960" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2020/02/01/het-is-mijn-valkuil-om-zelf-overal-in-te-duiken-a3988960</a>

🌈☔🌦️🍄🌱The massively (failing) corporation <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/KPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KPN</a>, which lives of the Dutch government selling their telephone infra cheaply on the private market, bought the hacker run ISP XS4ALL in 1997 with a promise to keep it's spirit. It's been failing on that pretty badly but now decided to give it a final blow and kill it off completely. The people behind <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/xs4all" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xs4all</a> have started a new ISP, and raised their initial minimal investment of 1.25Million in 24h. ❤️ <a href="https://crowdaboutnow.nl/campagnes/planb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://crowdaboutnow.nl/campagnes/planb</a> <a href="https://xs4allmoetblijven.nl/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://xs4allmoetblijven.nl/</a>

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