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switched from #Android app #UserLAnd to #Termux due to the promise of working sound via #portaudio , and also being generally much less outdated.

need to add a portaudio backend to clive (my thing for #LiveCoding #audio #dsp in the #C programming language) to be able to test it.

had hoped to test with #godwit (my #uzulang in progress) and classic Dirt sampler (which built in Termux with minor fixes), but compiling godwit depends on the #haskell programs alex and happy for generating the parser, and it seems Termux repos don't have them. nor is there darcs (also implemented in Haskell), which I'd need to get #HaskellHugs Hugs 2019 improvement (inc happy) working.

getting happy and alex working with #MicroHs is also far from trivial, even old versions depend on MagicHash and other ghc-isms.

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@gettie @chesheer Sadly not even #AdelieLinux, which @ActionRetro uses all the time...

I am working on an #i486 distro ( @OS1337) but for #i386 the support in terms of Linux ended with Versions 3.4.99 LTS & 3.6.9 respectably, and my #userland & #toolchain (#toybox & #musl-cross) doesn't support that at all, and I'd propably have more success convincing @landley to join #OS1337 than to support i386 even if I could pay him for that!

GitHubOS1337/docu/internal/linux.kernel.versions.tsv at c4a19af5a62d7afbb80dfc416773a92074e6cc32 · OS-1337/OS1337OS/1337 Project . Contribute to OS-1337/OS1337 development by creating an account on GitHub.
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@mrmasterkeyboard @landley glad I could get you guys connected then...

I'm convinced #toybox is a good #userland to get a basic OS up and running and on it's feet. If it's good enough for #Android then it's certainly gonna be good enough for #embedded stuff as well...

  • After all that seems to be the main goal of it: Allowing "self-hosting" as in building itself under itself if not deliver under the same OS...

I don't leverage that capability with #OS1337 (at least for now) but that's because I treat it more akin to how #VxWorks and #WindRiverLinux is being developed and deployed...

en.wikipedia.orgVxWorks - Wikipedia

“Katya Adler: Disdain for Europe in US Signal chat horrifies EU”

All the more reason for the EU and other countries to quicken the severing of ties with USerlandia. The faster the country crashes and burns the quicker it can recover. They talk about a “Kill Switch”. Foreign governments need to pull their own switch now.

#EU #USerland #Distain #KillSwitch #Signal

bbc.com/news/articles/c204vl27

www.bbc.comKatya Adler: Disdain for Europe in US Signal chat horrifies EUAs top US officials describe Europe as "freeloaders", European leaders and policy-makers are said to be "sick to the stomach".
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@Danathar @todd_a_jacobs@infosec.exchange True! You can be #POSIX compliant and still frustrate any sane *nix user's expectations about how systems work, or do things in non-portable ways. Heck, I use the #fish_shell which doesn't even *try* to be POSIX compliant, but I love working with it anyway and the docs are solid.

I think the real issue is that so much of #Darwin #userland is poorly documented, if at all. That just makes deviations from the norm more painful than necessary IMHO.

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@RL_Dane a #hex #editor needed to be used in order for the #boot #floppy for #Linux to be created
The #shell was also cross compiled
Otherwise you would stand nowhere after the kernel has booted
The same counted for the #userland utilities #ls #mkdir etc. Those came from #RichardStallman
The initial file system was #OpenSource #minix from #GNU #Herd

Finally #GCC was compiled natively
Then a native version of the kernel could be compiled, from Linux itself

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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*

I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...

I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...

This is slowly driving me insane.
The promise of having a computer in your pocket is so close.
Modern #Smartphone has enough processing power to do most if not all basic tasks that people use computers for.
But #software for this is severely lacking. Especially on #OpenSource side, when you #DeGoogle your phone.
* bad external monitor support in #AOSP / #LineageOS
* #UserLAnd development halted
* #limboemu development halted

It was going so well, but now suddenly no interest
What am I missing?