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Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarRecently discovered Firefox's tab groups, which probably have been there for years without me noticing 💡<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Tabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tabs</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a>

C.I would once again like to thank the <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> folks for their fine work on making <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> do what they think the user should want, rather than what the user actually wants. This is a challenging technical task, but they have proven to be very adept at it over the years.Current <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/gripe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gripe</a>: tab groups. My tabs just started opening in tab groups without me doing anything. Took a while to figure out this was actually what was going on; the UI affordances for this are not obvious, and it just seemed to be two unrelated niggles - (1) links opened in new tabs weren't opening at the end of the tab bar, and (2) some weird little thing was showing up in the tab bar, which just looked like a graphical glitch.I didn't enable tab groups, but I suddenly got them anyway.I didn't choose for links opened in new tabs to be placed into tab groups, but I got that anyway.And there's no setting in the UI to control this, at least in my Firefox. Search the settings UI for "group" and there's 0 results. Looking through the settings, I don't see it under another name.You can turn it off in about:config - it's at `browser.tabs.groups.enabled`.Firefox keeps getting worse and worse. This "we know better than the user, they should want this change and we won't let them even opt out, much less require them to opt in" is a huge driver of that.When will <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/Servo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Servo</a> be suitable as a daily driver?<a href="https://mindly.social/tags/tab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tab</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/BrowserTab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BrowserTab</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/TabGroup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroup</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#browser</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/arrogant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#arrogant</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/PissesMeOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PissesMeOff</a> <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/PissMeOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PissMeOff</a>

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@lecroix74" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@lecroix74</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@cR0w" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cR0w</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@AAKL" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@AAKL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@9to5Mac" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@9to5Mac</a> Agree. Reading discussions for instance in the firefox subreddit reveals some really ugly attitudes & IMO unrealistic perspectives. Trivial example; the considerable mouth-frothing & rabid indignation of some for Mozilla having had the temerity to finally, so-very-late-to-the-party, provide <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a>. Some people are so massively insular & narrow-minded.

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:Still happily using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Floorp12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Floorp12</a> Beta as my daily browser, but made an important change last night. As a longterm <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TST" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TST</a>, then later <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sidebery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sidebery</a>, user & lover, the last several months of me deliberately forcing myself to use my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxNightly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxNightly</a> then more recently Floorp12 Beta profiles predicated on the native FF <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> has been interesting, yet filled with frequent regret, so invested have i been for years in the power of managing all my tabs in a sophisticated tree hierarchy. FF native tab groups atm remain merely single-level, like Chromium & Vivaldi, thus far less powerful than either TST or Sidebery. I know from bitter experience last year with Floorp10 & Floorp11 that Sidebery is incompatible [due to the Floorp <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Workspaces" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Workspaces</a>; not only do Sidebery's tabs not recognise/respect Floorp's Workspaces, because both softwares seek to control tab location, they severely clash, causing major browser instability & often tab loss]. Hence i've made no attempt to court further/similar disasters by trying Sidebery in Floorp12. So, last night i created a new profile in Floorp12 for use with TST, & that's what i'm now using. Though in Nightly i regard Sidebery superior to TST, in Floorp the reverse is true; the Floorp Dev/s seem to have taken particular steps to ensure TST compatibility, which thus integrate really well with Floorp's native Workspaces. The one decided drawback atm of using this new profile however is that with TST active & native tabs hidden, there is no instant access to the important tab context-menu items for splitting-tabs, & moving them to other Workspaces. Fortunately, both those operations i need to use only rarely, so my clunky workaround, which would be untenable if i needed to do it dozens of times each day, is bearable albeit still irritating. When the occasional need arises to do either of those operations, i temporarily unhide the native tabs at the UI top, perform the requisite right-click ops on the applicable tabs, then re-hide said native tabsbar.

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:I suspect i need therapy [i mean, even more than i already knew]. Overnight i had a dream. It was vivid, it was detailed, & oddly i awoke still remembering it. It was not about unicorns, it was not about some rollicking space sci-fi adventure, it was not about having unlimited supplies of turkish-delight & violet-crumble. It was not even some lurid sexual fantasy. Nope. It was... that today's update of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxNightly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxNightly</a> introduced infinitely-nested <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a>, rather than uni-dimensional as now. The saddest part... this toot is actually for-real. It's not just made-up nonsense. I really had that dream. 🙄🤦‍♀️I wonder if there's any hope for me, or if i'm now unfixable? 🤷‍♀️

Marcus JaschenIch hoffe, ich lehne mich nicht zu weit aus dem Fenster.Tab Groups werden einen ähnlich großen Einfluss auf meine Arbeit mit dem Browser haben, wie damals die Einführung von Tabs an sich.<a href="https://skylightaccess.de/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://skylightaccess.de/tags/tabgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a>

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:<a href="https://infosec.space/@MsDropbear42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@MsDropbear42</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/@floorp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@floorp</a> Well well well, how nice! 💃💃Floorp Daylight aka Floorp 12 Beta, Version 138.0.2@0.1.21 as available 11 hours ago at <a href="https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-12/releases/tag/beta" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-12/releases/tag/beta</a>, has made a major jump forward in features & reliability. <ul><li>Now its <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Workspaces" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Workspaces</a> seem to work, and survive restarts [older Betas failed on one or both of those]</li><li>it now has native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MouseGestures" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MouseGestures</a> and they work [so i can remove <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gesturefy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gesturefy</a>]</li><li>its native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebPanels" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebPanels</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sidebar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sidebar</a> is less powerful than the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxSecondSidebar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxSecondSidebar</a> project, but is still excellent & highly usable</li><li>its internal special Floorp settings page, now called Floorp Hub, has regained several [albeit certainly not all] of the fab <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Floorp11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Floorp11</a> UI options</li></ul>Atm the native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> do not respect Workspaces, ie, persist across all of them, unlike ordinary tabs which now do stay in their respective WS. Thus my next focus of interest will be to see if coming Betas manage to fully integrate these Groups into the Workspaces. TLDR: This latest Beta is such that i can now seriously consider the possibility of using it as more than just a curiosity, & as an actual daily browser. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/floorp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#floorp</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/floorp12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#floorp12</a>

Nicolas Borboën🦊✨Firefox just launched Tab Groups; organize, collapse, and color-code your tabs with ease. Check it out in version 137.0! Thanks <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozilla</a> 🙏 <a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/</a><a href="https://social.epfl.ch/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://social.epfl.ch/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> <a href="https://social.epfl.ch/tags/WebTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebTips</a> <a href="https://social.epfl.ch/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://social.epfl.ch/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Browser</a> <a href="https://social.epfl.ch/tags/TipOfTheDay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TipOfTheDay</a>

joene extraI was very excited about the new Tab Groups feature in <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> 138, but it wasn't there (<a href="https://todon.eu/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> 24.04 ppa). 😭 But it was enabled when I created a new profile. Changing browser.tabs.groups.enabled to true in about:config also enabled this for my existing profile. So the issue here is that <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> are NOT enabled for existing profiles.A related problem is the new Profile Management feature. This one is disabled in both new and existing profiles. Changing browser.profiles.enabled to true in about:config enables it. Personally I'm not going to use this, because I use the containers as a way to separate different website identities.I don't know if this is on purpose for Linux builds or a package issue in the <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> ppa repo.

A.B.The <a href="https://mas.to/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefox</a> recent features for browser tab groups and vertical tabs are ... pretty nicely done!<a href="https://mas.to/tags/tabgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabgroups</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/verticaltabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#verticaltabs</a>

kr0nHombre! Por fin <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> añade los "Tabs groups". Tenía una extensión que hacía algo parecido pero no era tan cómodo como <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Chrome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chrome</a>. Ahora podré desinstalarla.<a href="https://mas.to/tags/tabgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabgroups</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mozilla</a>

Jan ☕🎼🎹☁️🏋️‍♂️<a href="https://fedi.kcore.org/tags/mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mozilla</a> <a href="https://fedi.kcore.org/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefox</a> finally has (experimental) tab grouping support!Works quite nice in Firefox 136, you need to activate it through about:config, search for "browser.tabs.groups.enabled" and set it to true.Then just drag tabs on one another, and they group :)<a href="https://fedi.kcore.org/tags/tabgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabgroups</a> <a href="https://fedi.kcore.org/tags/tabmanagement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabmanagement</a>

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:<a href="https://mastodon.online/@eknobl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@eknobl</a> Also, the native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> have been working well for several weeks in :firefox_nightly:, & in my recent testing they also now seem to have become reliable in :firefox: . The whole native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a> UI ootb has ridiculous amounts of padding per tab, such that a stupidly small number of tabs can be open before invoking the scrollbar... i fixed this via some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS</a>. The one remaining major design paradigm i dislike is that the tab groups are primitive like in Vivaldi & Chromium, ie, only single-level; no hierarchical trees are possible. Hence, even though the new VTs & TGs are aesthetically pleasing & quite usable, i still keep returning to Sidebery. :firefox_nightly: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxNightly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxNightly</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mv2</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/uBO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#uBO</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sidebery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sidebery</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxSecondSidebar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxSecondSidebar</a> = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, :floorp: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Floorp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Floorp</a>, :zenbrowser: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ZenBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ZenBrowser</a>, Waterfox, LibreWolf... ergo = 💜🥳🎉👯‍♀️:firefox_nightly: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxNightly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxNightly</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NativeVerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NativeVerticalTabs</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/uBlockOrigin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#uBlockOrigin</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxSecondSidebar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxSecondSidebar</a> = Very usable already as of Feb 2025, albeit less powerful than Sidebery, ergo = 💜 🎉

Yesterday's Rose<a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> 136 is out, and the native <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/tabgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabgroups</a> are back!!! (the cheering you're hearing is from the <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/panorama" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#panorama</a> gang 🎺) Also the vertical tab bar seems to have fixed the most annoying thing in the preview, which was that there was no easy way to close tabs. Now there's a hover-over close button.

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@nekohayo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nekohayo</a> Sigh. <blockquote>Firefox's reputation is in ashes</blockquote>Only in the minds of peeps more influenced by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FUD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FUD</a> than facts. 🙄🤦‍♀️<blockquote>tab workspaces (a.k.a. tab groups</blockquote>Workspaces are not the same as tab groups. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxNightly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxNightly</a> has had viable native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> now for several weeks [for both H & V tab arrangements], but still has no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Workspaces" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Workspaces</a>. If you want actual proper literal Workspaces, you need to use any of Vivaldi, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Floorp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Floorp</a>, or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ZenBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ZenBrowser</a>. However, be aware:<ul><li>Zen is only based on FF 136, so unlike Nightly, atm does NOT have properly working Tab Groups.</li><li>Floorp 11 is based on FF ESR, so uses its own in-house <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a>, & has no tab groups [but good Workspaces]</li><li>Floorp 12 is atm in Beta, is based on FF 136, so does have FF's native vertical tabs, but like Zen, atm its Tab Groups are very broken [like they also once were in Nightly, but now are good, so eventually they will also come good here]. It does have Workspaces already, but atm they & many other features in this early Beta are not working properly.</li></ul>

rivalAbsolutely <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InLove" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#InLove</a> with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Sidebery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sidebery</a>: <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/sidebery/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/sidebery/</a> <a href="https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AddOn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AddOn</a> that implements <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> and an extremely powerful and incredibly simple navigation resources, full of efficiency. For anyone that work with more than 10 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabs</a>. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeSoftware</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LibreSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LibreSoftware</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MIT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MIT</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Internet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Browser</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Favs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Favs</a>

Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:I've loved using the superb AO <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sidebery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sidebery</a> in my :firefox_nightly: for many years. Nevertheless i have been keeping an eye on the FF Devs' progress with native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxNightly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxNightly</a> over the past several months. A couple of days ago i decided to create a new profile [using the new Profile paradigm in Nightly], into which i installed all the same AOs [except ofc not Sidebery this time], copied across all my bookmarks, passwords, form data etc, to basically replicate my familiar browsing setup except this time with the native VTs & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a>. I've used this new profile instead of my usual Sidebery profile for the past day, to do all my normal browsing, so i can get a good feel for the viability or not of this native paradigm. Sidebery's hierarchical infinitely-nestable tree-structure is vastly superior to any & all simple flat tab-groups paradigms like Vivaldi, Floorp, Zen, & Chromium... & now also Nightly, but i'm trying to be tenacious & tolerate it so i can make it a worthy IRL comparison test.However what's highly irritating is the profligate waste of vertical space of these native VTs compared to Sidebery; see pic. Multiple times i have launched the Nightly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BrowserToolbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BrowserToolbox</a> UI & tried to discover the specific css code controlling the huge padding & excessive vertical height of these tabs, so i can drastically reduce it in my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/userChromeCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#userChromeCSS</a>... but each time it seems to evade me [i'm not very good at this].Can any actual Devs or otherwise keen FF UI modders please point me to the code in question?

Vincent TunruMozilla has been talking a lot about AI, which I personally don't care much for. Luckily, that doesn't appear to be coming at the cost of Firefox development, because there are a couple of features coming up that I'm pretty excited about! The following are all available in Nightly already.(Update: they're in regular Firefox now!)<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Mozilla</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Profiles" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Profiles</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#TabGroups</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#VerticalTabs</a>

Droppie [infosec] 🐨♀:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird:🦘:vegan:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@il_fritz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@il_fritz</a> Hello. Like many Foxers i've also been keenly following Mozilla's belated work here. I've seen many other users express happiness at the arrival of <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/VerticalTabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VerticalTabs</a> & <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/TabGroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TabGroups</a> in :firefox: ... note btw that they're slightly more advanced in :firefox_nightly: . However tbh i doubt many <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/TreeStyleTab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TreeStyleTab</a> & especially <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Sidebery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sidebery</a> lovers will decide to change over to these, as the functionality is very severely less. Fwiw.

Tao of MacWork HacksThings are reasonably OK these days, but I thought I’d list a few work hacks that I’ve come to rely on over the years (and that are now a part of my daily routine).(...)<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#browser</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/filenames" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#filenames</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hack</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/music" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#music</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/oxideandfriends" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oxideandfriends</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/playlist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#playlist</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/remote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#remote</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tabgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tabgroups</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/wallpaper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#wallpaper</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/work" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#work</a><a href="https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2024/11/27/1900" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2024/11/27/1900</a>

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