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lvgaldieri<p><strong>No, the Shift to Renewables Will Not Be the End of Toil</strong></p><blockquote><p>Energy derived from sources like the sun, air, and water, on the other hand, is imbued with immense liberatory potential. In principle every house, farm, and factory could free itself from the grid by generating its own power. No longer would power lines and gigantic, leak prone tankers be needed for the transportation of energy; <strong>no longer would workers have to toil in underground mines or remote deserts or rough seas; there would be no need for the long supply chains required by fossil fuels</strong>. (Amitav Ghosh, The Nutmeg’s Curse, p. 102, emphasis mine)</p></blockquote><p>Context makes it clear Ghosh is thinking of coal mining, oil fields, and offshore platforms when he dreams of a world where workers no longer toil. But in his reverie, Ghosh neglects an important and undeniable feature of renewable energy: it is mining intensive.</p><p>The IEA <a href="https://lvgaldieri.com/2021/05/18/the-second-most-important-chart-in-the-new-iea-report/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">sees</a> demand for critical minerals surging from 2020-2050 even as the demand for and value of coal drops. In green growth scenarios, workers will likely have to keep toiling in mines as they now do in Chile’s Atacama desert, the cobalt mines of the Democratic Republic of Congo, or the copper and nickel mines of South Asia, South America, or Siberia. The list of potential sacrifice zones will grow and could someday extend from American public lands to offshore oil platforms converted to deep-sea mining.</p><p>This observation is not an argument against the transition from fossil fuels. It’s just to say that right now there are no signs the shift to renewables will undo the resource curse. Extraction for global markets continues to exact a local toll: serious human rights violations, unremediated (or irremediable) environmental destruction, conflicts over water (which Ghosh himself mentions briefly in a list of “conflicts that global warming will create or exacerbate,” p. 127), and social division. And for the foreseeable future, mineral supply chains will be nearly as long as those required by fossil fuels, strung across the globe and fraught with geopolitical tension.</p><p>A decisive shift from fossil fuels could see the end of the petro-dollar and the toppling of “global hierarchies of power,” as Ghosh imagines: “The liberatory potential of renewable energy has a very important international dimension as well: if adopted at scale it could transform, indeed revolutionize, the current global order” (p. 103). It could also precipitate another set of crises – environmental, humanitarian, and military — and it’s worth considering that eventuality.</p><p><strong>Postscript, 20 January 2022</strong>: For more on the geopolitical risks of the energy transition, see Jason Bordoff and Meghan L. O’Sullivan, “Green Upheaval The New Geopolitics of Energy,” <a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2021-11-30/geopolitics-energy-green-upheaval" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Foreign Affairs</a>, January/February 2022.</p><p></p><p><a rel="nofollow noopener" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://lvgaldieri.com/tag/amitav-ghosh/" target="_blank">#AmitavGhosh</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://lvgaldieri.com/tag/green-growth/" target="_blank">#greenGrowth</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://lvgaldieri.com/tag/human-rights/" target="_blank">#humanRights</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://lvgaldieri.com/tag/renewables/" target="_blank">#renewables</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://lvgaldieri.com/tag/supply-chains/" target="_blank">#supplyChains</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://lvgaldieri.com/tag/the-nutmegs-curse/" target="_blank">#TheNutmegSCurse</a></p>
Kuvaajankulma<p>Valokuvaaja Lappeenranta Kuvaajankulma. Kevät 2025. <a href="https://www.kuvaajankulma.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" class="" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span>www.kuvaajankulma.com/</a><br><br><br><a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/NaturePhotography" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#NaturePhotography</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/SpringSprout" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#SpringSprout</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/Botanical" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#Botanical</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/FreshLeaves" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#FreshLeaves</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/GreenGrowth" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#GreenGrowth</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/EcoFriendly" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#EcoFriendly</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/PlantLove" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#PlantLove</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/LeaveNatureClean" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#LeaveNatureClean</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/NatureLovers" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#NatureLovers</a> <a href="https://vernissage.photos/tags/NaturalBeauty" rel="nofollow noopener" class="mention hashtag" target="_blank">#NaturalBeauty</a></p>
Matthias Andrasch<p>Find's sehr gut, dass sich <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/NeueNarrative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NeueNarrative</span></a> nicht vor der Debatte unserer Zeit versteckt. 🌱<br><a href="https://www.neuenarrative.de/magazin/superreiche-sind-ein-problem-geld-muss-teil-der-loesung-werden" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">neuenarrative.de/magazin/super</span><span class="invisible">reiche-sind-ein-problem-geld-muss-teil-der-loesung-werden</span></a></p><p>(Falls eure Firma noch Budget für gute Zeitschriften-Abos oder ihrem digitalen Workshop-Baukasten 9Spaces hat, schaut doch mal bei ihnen vorbei) <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/klima" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>klima</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/klimakrise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>klimakrise</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/degrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>degrowth</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/greengrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>greengrowth</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/finanzen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>finanzen</span></a></p>
Charles West<p>Has the Labour government lost its way? <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/Growth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Growth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/Renewables" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Renewables</span></a></p>
A.A. Delafin, blackguard<p>While <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> is a scam, it would already be an improvement of our current path. Which isn't even worth the term 'scam', blatant as it is in its disregard of our world and humanity.<br><a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/ClimateCrisis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateCrisis</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/ClimateDiary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateDiary</span></a></p>
Steady State Manchester<p>Our new blog post in advance of Andy Burnham's Green Summit where we'll have a stand.</p><p>Green Growth? Only within Degrowth | Steady State Manchester<br><a href="https://steadystatemanchester.net/2024/12/05/green-growth-only-within-degrowth/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">steadystatemanchester.net/2024</span><span class="invisible">/12/05/green-growth-only-within-degrowth/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Manchester" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Manchester</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Degrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Degrowth</span></a></p>
Jack of all trades<p>So much for green capitalism.</p><p>"""<br>Managers in the $5 trillion hedge fund industry say the reason is obvious: Despite the promises, clean energy and green technology stocks have lagged far behind the broader market.</p><p>Deep-pocketed institutions are concluding that many climate investments won’t pay off as quickly, or as lucratively, as they’d hoped.<br>"""</p><p><a href="https://archive.ph/0rJN4" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">archive.ph/0rJN4</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>capitalism</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/ClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateChange</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a></p>
Mark Burton<p>Doing a bit of work on "Green growth" Vs "Degrowth". The idea is to frame GG within an overall reality of finite limits and contraction. That is, "Green growth within Degrowth'".<br>It might be more easily heard within the hegemony of growth than a bald opposition. It's kind of dialectical in both senses.<br>Thoughts?</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Degrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Degrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PlanetaryBoundaries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PlanetaryBoundaries</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Framing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Framing</span></a></p>
PIK_climate<p><a href="https://wisskomm.social/tags/Greengrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Greengrowth</span></a>: 30% of regions worldwide achieve economic growth while reducing <a href="https://wisskomm.social/tags/carbon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>carbon</span></a><br> <a href="https://wisskomm.social/tags/emissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>emissions</span></a>, finds new PIK study. Though progress is evident, the authors state that the pace is too slow to achieve net-zero emissions by 2050.<br><a href="https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/news/latest-news/green-growth-30-percent-of-regions-worldwide-achieve-economic-growth-while-reducing-carbon-emissions" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">pik-potsdam.de/en/news/latest-</span><span class="invisible">news/green-growth-30-percent-of-regions-worldwide-achieve-economic-growth-while-reducing-carbon-emissions</span></a></p>
Kees van der Leun<p>In discussions on green growth and degrowth, always first check the definition of growth. <br>If it's in terms of GDP, the whole discussion makes little sense. If GDP keeps growing, but we spend a large share on repairing and preventing climate damage, it doesn't increase wellbeing.<br><a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/greengrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>greengrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/degrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>degrowth</span></a></p>
_noelamac_<p>“Flight shame is dead,” said Stefan Gössling, a researcher at Lund University, who studies tourism and climate change. “Partly what killed it is that governments promised to act on climate change … You can’t keep up momentum if people don’t still believe they need to fight.”</p><p>Since all leaders are telling the fairy tale that 1.5C can be kept alive, that <a href="https://spore.social/tags/greengrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>greengrowth</span></a> can be achieved, etc people think we can all sit back and relax. </p><p>We shouldn’t.</p><p><a href="https://spore.social/tags/travel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>travel</span></a> <a href="https://spore.social/tags/ClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateChange</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/sep/06/flight-shame-climate-impact-tourism-boom-covid-environment-net-zero" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theguardian.com/news/article/2</span><span class="invisible">024/sep/06/flight-shame-climate-impact-tourism-boom-covid-environment-net-zero</span></a></p>
Olivier B<p>Si ses 200 000 000 utilisateurs ne font qu'une petite conversation avec chat gpt, on est déjà à 100 000 000 L d'eau par semaine.</p><p>chat gpt attire + 200 000 000 utilisateurs par semaine <br><a href="https://www.rtbf.be/article/chatgtp-attire-plus-de-200-millions-d-utilisateurs-chaque-semaine-11427133" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">rtbf.be/article/chatgtp-attire</span><span class="invisible">-plus-de-200-millions-d-utilisateurs-chaque-semaine-11427133</span></a></p><p>Et une petite conversation avec chat gpt utilise 1/2L d'eau.<br><a href="https://www.neowin.net/news/chatgpt-drinks-half-a-litre-of-water-for-every-20-prompts/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">neowin.net/news/chatgpt-drinks</span><span class="invisible">-half-a-litre-of-water-for-every-20-prompts/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/aiwaste" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>aiwaste</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/generativeai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>generativeai</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/degrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>degrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/enshitifacation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshitifacation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/lowtech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lowtech</span></a> #</p>
Dimitri Dhuyvetter<p>We simply don’t have that long, and the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/greenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>greenGrowth</span></a> advocates who try to sell us such a plan are prioritizing a desire to save <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>capitalism</span></a> over a desire to save life on this planet.</p>
Anti. 🐘<p>"More green energy is not slowing this catastrophe. What we need is to stop the construction of new pipelines, drilling operations and airports; to end our structural dependency on cars; to recover ecosystemic and localized forms of food production that are inalienable from the communities that rely on them. We need to stop growth-based industry, deepen our relationships with our ecosystems and help them adapt."</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Capitalism</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Ecocide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ecocide</span></a></p>
Anti. 🐘<p>"They pretend that emissions can be counted country-by-country and ignore the carbon emissions caused by exported fossil fuels, even when those exports are crucial to a country’s economic growth. And they hide rising emissions by counting a country’s emissions per capita rather than counting total emissions.<br>[...]<br>These are all ways of ignoring the truth that, globally, carbon emissions and renewable energy generation are rising hand-in-hand."</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Capitalism</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Ecocide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ecocide</span></a></p>
Anti. 🐘<p>It’s being paid for by military production, the automobile industry and the aviation industry. It’s being paid for by banks and other companies that have their hands deep in the pockets of many of the worst polluters. ​“Green growth” is a marketing strategy.<br>Advocates of green growth claim many countries have already ​“decoupled economic growth from CO2 emissions” but when we look past their colorful graphs, we see they are burying the truth under statistics."</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Capitalism</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Ecocide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ecocide</span></a></p>
Anti. 🐘<p>From: <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/PeterGelderloos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PeterGelderloos</span></a> - <a href="https://inthesetimes.com/article/inflation-reduction-act-green-energy-carbon-emissions-broken-climate-framework" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">inthesetimes.com/article/infla</span><span class="invisible">tion-reduction-act-green-energy-carbon-emissions-broken-climate-framework</span></a> </p><p>"when we look at the countries that are held up as success stories, we find that the green energy transition is being paid for by fossil fuel production. It’s being paid for by the logging and mining industries that deplete and poison our clean water. It’s based on land stolen from Indigenous peoples and policed by human-rights violators. &gt;</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Capitalism</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Ecocide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ecocide</span></a></p>
Strypey<p>Green growth theory posits that we can decouple growth of the real economy - the one that provides goods and services that can lift our standard of living - from growth of energy use, pollution etc. I don't if that's true. But as I pointed out yesterday, financialisation has been pretty good at...</p><p>&gt; Decoupling on-paper economic growth from anything that actually lift's our standard or living</p><p>So who knows?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/GreenGrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenGrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/decoupling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decoupling</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/financialisation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>financialisation</span></a></p>
JBouchez<p>Un autre clou dans le cercueil de la croissance verte... 😎 <br><a href="https://rgs-ibg.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/geoj.12585" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">rgs-ibg.onlinelibrary.wiley.co</span><span class="invisible">m/doi/pdf/10.1111/geoj.12585</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/croissanceverte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>croissanceverte</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/greengrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>greengrowth</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/decouplage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decouplage</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/decoupling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decoupling</span></a></p>
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