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tskIt occurs to me that when people take the position of a privileged uber-consumer in an IT discussion, and declare they won't settle for anything "less" than having access to the proprietary thing (banking app instead of the bank website), that all they're really doing is abdicating control of their own lives to SV oligarchs. It also seems like they don't care if the rest of us are forced into the same info-ditch as they reside.We call this topic <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/deGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deGoogle</a> but its actually the reason why I distrust most <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apple</a> devotees: They will argue for the proprietary app every time and suggest you're some kind of vagrant for using a website instead of a proprietary app from the one, true App Store.

xorolloGoogle Play on Graphene OS is bugging me for more permissions <a href="https://leminal.space/post/23465863" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://leminal.space/post/23465863</a>

signaljamWe started a new privacy podcast. <a href="https://lemmy.ml/post/33662984" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lemmy.ml/post/33662984</a>

sebulonSpent the day in Phosh on my OnePlus 6T trying to get Signal working in the Flare app as a primary device. The reason for switching to Phosh was because no contacts were showing up in Flare and I hoped I needed to add contacts in gnome-online-accounts first. No, still no contacts in Flare. And TBF the primary device functionality isn't enabled by default, they clearly want you to use as a companion app but still, worth a shot! Back to Plasma Mobile I guess!? 🤷 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PostmarketOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PostmarketOS</a>

MakiHot take: You cannot ethically de-google on a google pixel.This is not a thing.You're still paying google for the hardware.Conversely, there are phones like <a href="https://social.weho.st/@Fairphone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Fairphone</a> which does not pay google for its hardware.Custom android versions exist for it, among which Fairphone OS, CalyxOS, /e/OS (Murena), iodéOS, LineageOS, postmarketOS, Sailfish OS, and Ubuntu Touch.<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Smartphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Smartphone</a>

The Agender Kiwi<a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nixCraft</a> There's also <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CaylxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CaylxOS</a> for if the device isn't the latest, as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GrapheneOS</a> focuses on a select few devicesAlso for anyone considering a Pixel solely for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GrapheneOS</a> or <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CalyxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CalyxOS</a>, I'd advise you to Avoid the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Pixel8" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pixel8</a>. Mine randomly died on me after 1 year after it went flat. Got told it was $300~$400 to replace it 😡<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GooglePixel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GooglePixel</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AndroidOpenSourceProject" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidOpenSourceProject</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NoAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NoAI</a>

sebulonProgress on settling in to Plasma Mobile on my OnePlus 6T:Mastodon works great with Tuba Email set up with Geary GPS works after installing Geoclue and tested with Pure Maps Matrix works with both Fractal and Neochat SMS works with SpacebarContacts and online accounts doesn't seem to work all that great, you can add accounts but no contacts show up in Phonebook And I think because of that Signal doesn't work with Flare, so back to Phosh it is then 😮‍💨<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PlasmaMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PlasmaMobile</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Phosh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Phosh</a>

Yehor 🇺🇦It’s happening! Moving my wife’s emails from <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/gmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gmail</a> to <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/infomaniak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#infomaniak</a> mail in my custom domain. Also she agrees for <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/vivaldi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vivaldi</a> instead of <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/chrome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chrome</a>. <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> should think about the depth of their <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#enshittification</a> that even my wife agreed to <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a>

JanekFirst post here, just to have done it😂Digital privacy… What started your journey, and what did you start with? <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/digitalprivacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#digitalprivacy</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/BigTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BigTech</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/DataPrivacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DataPrivacy</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a>

Paul HulfordFlashing GrapheneOS to a Pixel Tablet! The irony of attempting to <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/debigtech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#debigtech</a> is it seems easiest to do buying old Pixel devices.

Delta_VWhy is no one having a -site:*.com? I specifically requested it. <a href="https://lemmy.world/post/33427144" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lemmy.world/post/33427144</a>

OlliSain ehkä MolleSocketin conffattua air-gapped tilassa toimintaan. Toiminan verifiointiin vaan tarvii viestiapua vähän toisilta testiksi, mutta katsotaan lähteekö pelittämään. Jos lähti niin ihan helppo oli, vaikka ohjeet tuntui hyppiviltä ja sekavilta.<a href="https://mastodontti.fi/tags/grapheneos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#grapheneos</a> <a href="https://mastodontti.fi/tags/ntfy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ntfy</a> <a href="https://mastodontti.fi/tags/mollyim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mollyim</a> <a href="https://mastodontti.fi/tags/mollysocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mollysocket</a> <a href="https://mastodontti.fi/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a>

renegadesporkNo-brainer purchase. This software is incredible and 100% worth the lifetime license. <a href="https://social.jelliefrontier.net/tags/Immich" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Immich</a> <a href="https://social.jelliefrontier.net/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfHost</a> <a href="https://social.jelliefrontier.net/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a>

sebulonSo I've really been flippin an' floppin back and forth between phosh and plasma mobile, testing both the "stable" and edge-releases of PostmarketOS. Currently settled down in latest stable plasma mobile and starting to try and see just how much of my life can move here. Obviously got Mastodon covered with Tuba 😄<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PostmarketOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PostmarketOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PlasmaMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PlasmaMobile</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tuba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tuba</a>

NegativePrimes<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Brentguernsey" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Brentguernsey</a> I'm not an expert, but you might try the <a href="https://urusai.social/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a> community. Generally, I don't think Linux works on mobile devices, but there are other equivalent open source OS's that do.Edit: I missed that you also asked about laptops. Linux runs great on laptops (I'm typing this on Linux on a laptop right now!). And Mint runs well on many laptops; I've had it on a couple of mine in the past.

Paul HulfordI'm very new to the privacy, security, <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a> dump <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/bigtech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bigtech</a> movement and have been testing both <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Tutanota</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@protonprivacy</a> for my email. Proton has a nice suite of app and Tuta has the simplicity and punk rock vibe. Then this morning Proton drops a AI chatbot???? I'm conflicted! Could be good for copyediting?? But are they becoming too big and trying to emulate <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/bigtech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bigtech</a> too much?<a href="https://lumo.proton.me/guest" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lumo.proton.me/guest</a>

Monique :coffefied:Welcome to Gemini. Thanks Google! You stopped supporting my Pixel nearly 2 years ago, no more security updates since then, and yet you found it in your heart to install some bogus AI crap that I never asked for with no simple Off switch or uninstall option. Disabled what I could but the urge to get Graphene/Lineage etc. is now trumping my procrastination. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AI</a>

bestest<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/grapheneos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#grapheneos</a> ja <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a> testailua navigoinnin osalta.Ajelin tänään ehkä maailman tutuinta reittiä, eli vanhempien luokse. Olin jo asentanut aikaisemmin Organic Mapsin ja SherpaTTS:n, mutta en ollut päässyt testaamaan tuotannossa.Pistin puhelimen navigoimaan lapsuudenkotiin ja kaikki sujui ilman ainuttakaan ongelmaa. Reitti oli järkevä, itse asiassa parempi kuin googlen. Opastus oli hyvää ja toimivaa Piperin Harrin ansiosta. Nopeusrajoitukset alkoi vähän eri paikoissa, mutta osaan numerot.

Bryan (he/him/his) 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈I highly recommend Obtainium. It is a great way of installing and updating applications onto your Android phone. Instead of being a central store, you add the source for each project (from Github, Gitlab, Codeberg, etc) for the applications you use. It is the only "store" I added on my GrapheneOS phone. It allows absolute granular control of what I choose to install from the source; true digital intentional-ism. Main: <a href="https://obtainium.imranr.dev/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://obtainium.imranr.dev/</a> Source: <a href="https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium</a>Also, here is a list of "completed applications" make it easier to add them to Obtainium: <a href="https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/</a><a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Obtainium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Obtainium</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/deGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deGoogle</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GrapheneOS</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#apps</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/applications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#applications</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/github" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#github</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/gitlab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gitlab</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/codeberg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#codeberg</a>

SaasteJostain syystä syötteessä on näkynyt muutaman päivän aikana useampi töötti siitä, miten Googlen hakutuloksista saa sitä ja tätä pois lisäämällä osoitteeseen kaikenlaista törkyä.Haluan vaan muistuttaa kaikkia, että teidän ei ole pakko käyttää Googlea ja hyppiä voltteja sen edessä. On olemassa muitakin hakukoneita.Mikäli ette halua maksaa hakukoneesta, käyttäkää vaikka StartPagea. Se käyttää pellin alla Googlen hakuindeksiä, mutta ei tarjoile AI-roskaa tai mainoksia.<a href="https://www.startpage.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.startpage.com</a><a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeGoogle</a>

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