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#alpinelinux

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Klaus Zimmermann :unverified:

So I managed to run #Dillo through an #AlpineLinux chroot on a Debian host system.

I wonder what's the benefit of this exercise, other than some small "bragging rights" :P because from what I've read it isn't a real security mechanism, as it can be escaped quite trivially. At least was fun to try!

fuzzyface

Been looking at mastodon.cr/@Linux/11516945266 and thinking that it's probably time to leave #Ubuntu and try something based outside of the #USJurisdiction .

I was hoping to stick with a #Debian based #LinuxDistro, but looks like that isn't possible.

Currently, I'm looking #AlpineLinux (alpinelinux.org) for no other reason than it looks nice, supports #flatpak and has native packages for some of the core apps/utilities that I currently use.

Somewhere I have a spare laptop so can try it on that first. A nice project for this weekend. 🙂

Mastodon.crLinux Is Best (@Linux@mastodon.cr)A list of digital service providers located outside the jurisdiction of the United States. This is a public project, and I encourage others to contribute. Una lista de proveedores de servicios digitales ubicados fuera de la jurisdicción de los Estados Unidos. Este es un proyecto público, y animo a otras personas a contribuir. https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_US_Jurisdiction/src/branch/main/Index.md
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EF

@ariadne thank you for the explination and any OS is free to make its choices based on whatever rationale. I support #AlpineLinux in what the team wants to do. We all make choices based on the information at the time, not all decisions will sort everyone and no criticism was intended. Understand that XLibre is a particularly devisive topic but appreciate your answer also states why X itself is problematic long term.

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EF

@ariadne greater inclusion of actual systemd bits, the X compositor under Wayland in lieu of XLibre. The /usr thing doesn't bother me as long as the transition is painless. The last two or so releases appear to not have been as rigorously tested as previous one but that is subjective. All not helped by some of the wider politics and corporate 'involvement' in the Linux world.

#AlpineLinux is a wonderful OS and reliable with a good mix of software available. However, feel the team is struggling to expand and adapt as is becomes and more popular OS (Postmarket adding to the workload but contributing some too). Lots of people clearly doing good work. A loss of pure X and systemd components being added has triggered questions about whether #AlpineLinux is the right choice for the future. My contributions to the project are small and am not asking the project to change direction as that is wrong, just sharing an opinion for a user of it on multiple archs, using it as a server and desktop on fixed and portable devices. The wider issues in the 'Linux' community are more troubling and likely triggered the itch.

So, search is on for a new OS which feel could well be a BSD or Unix.

Hope that helps explain. Feel free to PM me if not or ask specifics here.

Peter Bui

After using #ghostty for a few months, I have decided to go back to #gnome-terminal for the following reasons:

1. When I'm doing something GPU intensive (such as playing RuneScape and watching YouTube at the same time), ghostty will sometimes take 5-10 seconds to display a new window. At first, I thought this was possibly due to using the #snap on #ubuntu by I experienced this with the deb version and with the version on #alpinelinux .

This was simply too unbearable because I usually use a terminal as a "scratchpad" and so will often open and close a terminal with a tmux session and having it sometimes delay for a few seconds really kills the experience.

2. I do not like the way ghostty handles URLs (control + click to open, or a keybind to copy). I like being able to right click on a link and choose either to open or copy (in addition to control + click to open).

3. Ghostty still has a bug where new windows are not centered properly if you have a custom geometry. I'm sure it will be fixed, but I've had to hold the snap from updating for a few weeks.

In returning to gnome-terminal I had to fix one issue which is that the Ubuntu Sans Mono font didn't render my Nord tmux theme properly (there was a vertical line at the end of one of the arrow characters). I was able to fix this by downloading the latest Ubuntu Sans Mono Nerd front directly from GitHub rather than using the one in the Ubuntu repositories.

Otherwise, I'm back on my deprecated CPU rendered terminal... that opens instantly :}

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pelle

@maiathecyberwitch
du ka også køre windows-udgaven af #hindenburg på #linux:
forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php

ellers, #kdenlive er uden tvivl bedste videoredigeringsprogram, så den er nok også fin til podcast.

jeg kan godt li #debian, som #ubuntu også er baseret på. #debian er demokratisk styret, modsat #ubuntu, som er styret af en milliardær, hvilket gør at de tager nogle skuffende beslutninger, såsom at sende alle dine lokale filsøgninger til #amazon. ( #spyware )

nogle kan være lidt utilfredse med, at programmerne i #debian ikke er seneste nye udgave (fordi #debian #stable prioriterer stabilitet, sjovt nok), men det er let at skifte til cutting edge opdateringer fra #debian #sid.

på helt skrabede, rigtig gamle laptops er #alpinelinux fed.

forum.winehq.orgDoes Hindenburg Journalist Pro work through Wine in Ubuntu 22.04? - WineHQ Forums
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EF

@jutty I run #AlpineLinux a lot as server and desktop. The only thing I have compiled for it is xst. It is a great and fast system as you say with a very decent software selection.

However, it feels lile the core team is a little overwhelmed as Alpine gains in popularity. For me, some of the design decisions being made I am not so comfortable with and so my journey BSD/Unix has started.

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/dev/urandom

@AdrianVovk my distro (#AlpineLinux) has some advice for setting up pipewire as an #OpenRC user service, but it seems to have been more geared for people running standalone composers (like sway) rather than GNOME, relying on a custom "gui" run level and asking the user to add a startup command

right now i tried using the same, but with the "default" run level, which is supposed to run whenever a user logs in instead, and it so far seems to work

Klaus Zimmermann :unverified:

@chongliss hi there! Sorry, I didn't see your reply until now for some reason (I didn't get a notification, possibly because the "@" got clobbered?)

I once owned a netbook with similar specs (albeit, more than 10 years ago). The sad truth that I can't sugarcoat is this: FOSS OSes do not speed up hardware. So while I'm cheering loudly for my D620 from 2006 that's running on NetBSD, I didn't mention that for some things, it's actually pretty darn slow. Namely: browsing with Firefox (Of course, we could say that this is more of a problem of Firefox rather than NetBSD, but the end result is the same). However, you can still browse rather OK with #Dillo.

The point I'm trying to make is this: #NetBSD won't "speed" a computer up. It's not performance-oriented like FreeBSD, and it may actually look like it's less responsible in terms of resource usage than Linux (it seems that it pools memory for future use instead of allocating it on demand). But you're going to gain in other aspects, like the simplicity of the OS structure, stability, the community and other stuff.

If you value more performance over the rest, from my experience Linux is a tad faster. A super slim system like #AlpineLinux is probably a great match, also with more drivers if your WiFi isn't well-supported in BSD. But it also won't speed up a sluggish application like a modern browser.

Anyway, hope this helps, and happy hacking! :)

TBlock

Some exciting news! @camelia is currently working on a new system that will make it way easier to add new filter lists to TBlock repositories. It is inspired by the #AlpineLinux packaging infrastructure and build system.

The Git repositories are:
codeberg.org/tblock/tports - where new filter lists can be added
codeberg.org/tblock/tbindex - where build tools can be found

This is still experimental, but will probably be used for the version 3.0 of TBlock, which has no release date yet.

Summary card of repository tblock/tports
Codeberg.orgtportsFilter list ports for tblock (repository v3)
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