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Let’s just say there’s a reason #PaleMoon has never adopted the idea of signing add-ons…
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1468274
Also equating “cool customisation” to “security risk” as well as downplaying the transition from #XUL to #WebExtensions as one of making add-ons “more secure” (which is questionable because there are a lot more malware in the #Firefox add-ons site now than back in the XUL era) instead of making them less powerful is really Orwellian and shows how #Mozilla has cared less and less about what made their browser obviously unique and different from the competition (which struggled in making their browsers customizable and extensible). A betrayal of the power users who believed in the power and future of what they’ve built; the same users who helped spread Firefox to the point it looked like it was unstoppable in being the browser who will crush MSIE once and for all! Until Chrome came and Mozilla tried imitating it…
support.mozilla.orgFirefox Root Certificate Expiration: Questions & Tips for Updating | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla Support
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Alllright, hello lunarians! We've moved instances again (4 hours has to be a world record for shortest stay in a #Mastodon before migrating :P), and hopefully this will be the final time we will do that. It would be a shame, because "Outer Heaven" does sorta fit more for a #browser named "Pale Moon"! ;)
So, with a permanent #fediverse home, here's the short #introduction again done two instances ago on what #PaleMoon is all about:
We are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!
If you want to explore more about our history, roadmap, and what you can do with this browser, then please give our website below a visit!
https://www.palemoon.org/
#introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
So, with a permanent #fediverse home, here's the short #introduction again done two instances ago on what #PaleMoon is all about:
We are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!
If you want to explore more about our history, roadmap, and what you can do with this browser, then please give our website below a visit!
https://www.palemoon.org/
#introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
www.palemoon.orgThe Pale Moon Project homepagePale Moon is an Open Source, Mozilla-derived web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use.
Hello everyone in the #fediverse! This is will be our official SNS after we've left Twitter last year in June due to it crossing too many lines for us to even continue using it as a channel for notifications. We will be doing that stuff here too: announce important updates such as new releases and scheduled downtimes for our services whenever they come. However, with this account not being directly managed by our project owner (it is instead managed by @job), this social media account could try to be a bit more flexible this time, such as boosting relevant #PaleMoon commentary and sometimes posting about less-known features we have that deserve attention. We will see how this goes! ;)
As our first post, let me, the operator of this account write a short #introduction of what this #browser is: we are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!
I would love to explain more, but it would take too long to write here, so we suggest exploring our website if you want to learn more!
https://www.palemoon.org/
#introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
As our first post, let me, the operator of this account write a short #introduction of what this #browser is: we are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!
I would love to explain more, but it would take too long to write here, so we suggest exploring our website if you want to learn more!
https://www.palemoon.org/#introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
www.palemoon.orgThe Pale Moon Project homepagePale Moon is an Open Source, Mozilla-derived web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use.
Très riche et intéressante interview dans le podcast Software Daily de Brian Grinstead, ingénieur principal senior Firefox chez @mozilla@mozilla.social
#webDev #refonteUI #JavaScript #XUL #CPlusPlus #Rust #FirefoxOS #DevTools #Speedometer #webPerf #WASMSQLite https://softwareengineeringdaily.com/2024/09/11/firefox-software-architecture-with-brian-grinstead/
Software Engineering Daily · Firefox Software Architecture with Brian Grinstead - Software Engineering DailyMozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser developed by the Mozilla Foundation. Since its first major release in 2004, it has stood out on the browser landscape for its emphasis on privacy, security, and customization. Brian Grinstead is a Senior Principal Engineer at Mozilla. He joins the podcast with Kevin Ball to talk about the
There is no Monday. Only Sunday!
#XUL
Plus. You might have tomorrow off.
I don't know how I got that #FileCoffee #FileServer to work before. Failing, presently. #Docker is not my forte, and that's prob a requisite. Not difficult, but i just up'd to Debian Testing, and ... don't probably do that, unless you are crazy.
3 diff dev servers here. and blah, blah. wrong one.
Have a good #Sunday
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@nilsding AFAIK this requires either not using applications that use that version of #GTK+, unless applications have a builtin alternative (the only I personally know of is #SeaMonkey which has a #XUL picker, used if ui.allow_platform_file_picker is false (probably also available in other programs that use a mozilla codebase where this file picker is still present)).
But I'll boost, in the hope someone somewhere is aware of some useful trick I've not encountered before.
Mima-sama Permission-based systems are bad. See #XUL getting replaced by #WebExtensions for example. It didn't stop #malware from getting into the #browser or the extension store. On the contrary, the malware problem only got worse after the complete replacement of XUL extensions, which is often disparaged as "insecure" because it allowed users to pretty much change how their browser fundamentally works.
Who knew that distrusting your users and not giving them control leads to more malicious software and user #security being broken more often. :seija_coffee:
RE: https://mamot.fr/users/gnomelibre/statuses/112371181710549606
La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media FédéréOkki (@gnomelibre@mamot.fr)@ubergeek@tilde.zone
Not only does #Flatpak not take away any of your freedoms, it actually does the opposite. With a traditional package, you have absolutely no control over what you authorize (usually it's all or nothing). But with Flatpak and Portals, you can fine-tune every permission.
The only reason I even know about #RDF is because of #XUL extensions where you need an install.rdf included in the XPI archive. But yeah it's pretty much irrelevant today. 
RE: https://blob.cat/objects/f3228474-736c-4f0b-a13a-f217638ff5a8
@CenturyAvocado The UI / #XUL application frontendof #PaleMoon is based on #Firefox 28 (before #Australis)
The #UXP platform/backend Pale Moon is built to work on is hard forked from the ESR 52 branch of the #Mozilla platform (which is erroneously referred to as the "Firefox platform" no thanks to Mozilla focusing so much on the browser to the detriment of building a sustainable XUL platform for other desktop app developers to use), and has since come a long way when it comes to #webcompat
So "really ancient" can be pretty misleading on the surface.
?) Hit me up If anyone wants my 32-bit PowerPC Linux Seamonkey binaries and sources or help building it. If there's interest i can just link publicly. (continued in replies; 1/2)
#seamonkey #mozilla #xul #libxul #powerpc #ppc #linux #powerpclinux #firefox
then implements modern features in Safari/Webkit really slowly
That's good actually, because you #webdevs keep chasing the shiny new features #Chrome / #Chromium / #Blink is pushing to the #web like fucking fireflies, to the detriment of #webcompat with small #browsers like #PaleMoon, #Basilisk, and others based on #UXP / #Goanna / #XUL (like #SeaMonkey).
As someone who used to work actively in Pale Moon's development, I am witness to a website that almost broke its #compatibility with my #browser but was stopped because the new feature it wanted to require was not yet available in an old #Safari / #WebKit version they're still supporting.
So yes, from my point of view, #Apple does more to support the #openweb than #Mozilla and #Firefox (which always follows Chrome whenever it's not controversial) does, even if it didn't intend to. And to be clear, I am not even an Apple fanboy. The only Apple device I own is this ancient 1st generation of the iPad mini. I don't like their ecosystem.
So it's not a bad take. It's the reality we independent desktop browser developers see in #webdev. 
#MissedQuoteBoost of https://tenforward.social/@packetcat/111881410141659072
Ten Forwardpacketcat (@packetcat@tenforward.social)Content warning: dunking on a bad take re: Apple and browser engine choice on iOS
22-year-old Firefox bug fixed by university student with 2-day-old account - Enlarge / Some bugs are just perennially out of reach. (credit: Getty I... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1974726 #mozillafirefox #bugzilla #firefox #mozilla #tech #bugs #xul
Ars Technica · How a 23-year-old first-time Firefox coder fixed a 22-year-old bugTiny text boxes, lingering on screens like ghosts, exorcised after 2 decades.
"isn't into surveillance capitalism"
It's always amusing to see people still fervently pretend that #Mozilla isn't big tech. Their pretense of fighting for privacy and against "giants" like #Google really messed with people's minds
Soon these "evangelists" will see that there isn't really any point to using Firefox in this age and switch back to #Chrome instead, because they see that there aren't really any worthwhile differences from Chrome-land to keep using Firefox, which has been an inferior copy of Chrome ever since it abandoned #XUL. Mozilla's insistence on being a copycat of Chrome has ironically led to their browser becoming even more irrelevant.
RE: https://floss.social/users/opsitive/statuses/111166991966823122
FLOSS.socialOpsitive (@opsitive@floss.social)My default web browser is Firefox. It works nicely, follows the latest standards, has a thriving extension ecosystem, and, most importantly, the organization that develops it isn’t into surveillance capitalism. I highly recommend you give it a try!
https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/
Behold, Nazrin, a successor to the OverbiteFF extension for legacy #Mozilla like #Firefox 38-56, #PaleMoon, and #SeaMonkey!
Differences from #Overbite:
- Video and audio can now be played inline!
- Recognize < item type from Gopher+
- Fix compatibility for later SeaMonkey 2.53 versions
- Formal compatibility with Pale Moon 28 and above (no longer piggybacking on Firefox's UUID)
#Floodgap #XUL
http://geidontei.chaotic.ninja/usr/mima/nazrin/
RE: https://makai.chaotic.ninja/notes/9jvcvprl3q
Just curious (random neuron firing, here), whatever became of #XUL? Does Firefox use it at all anymore?
I remember using Mozilla Milestone 13 and thinking, "Man, this interface sure looks incredible, but it's so slow on my Pentium I MMX." 