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Todd A. Jacobs | Rubyist

@Danathar @todd_a_jacobs@infosec.exchange True! You can be #POSIX compliant and still frustrate any sane *nix user's expectations about how systems work, or do things in non-portable ways. Heck, I use the #fish_shell which doesn't even *try* to be POSIX compliant, but I love working with it anyway and the docs are solid.

I think the real issue is that so much of #Darwin #userland is poorly documented, if at all. That just makes deviations from the norm more painful than necessary IMHO.

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Radio Azureus

@RL_Dane a #hex #editor needed to be used in order for the #boot #floppy for #Linux to be created
The #shell was also cross compiled
Otherwise you would stand nowhere after the kernel has booted
The same counted for the #userland utilities #ls #mkdir etc. Those came from #RichardStallman
The initial file system was #OpenSource #minix from #GNU #Herd

Finally #GCC was compiled natively
Then a native version of the kernel could be compiled, from Linux itself

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OS/1337

@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*

I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...

I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...

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testman

This is slowly driving me insane.
The promise of having a computer in your pocket is so close.
Modern #Smartphone has enough processing power to do most if not all basic tasks that people use computers for.
But #software for this is severely lacking. Especially on #OpenSource side, when you #DeGoogle your phone.
* bad external monitor support in #AOSP / #LineageOS
* #UserLAnd development halted
* #limboemu development halted

It was going so well, but now suddenly no interest
What am I missing?

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Matt Shook

I don't think I can go a full year without seeing at least a glimpse of the X11 "herring bone" background. It was last spotted when I tried UserLAnd on Android. I can't remember what distro I tried, but it installed, booted, and then promptly crashed when I tried to run something. I didn't see a reason to further frustrate myself, but it was nice to see an old friend.

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