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tyil<a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/@ainmosni" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu</a> All the people harping on how <a href="https://fedi.tyil.nl/tags/systemd" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a> is better than <a href="https://fedi.tyil.nl/tags/sysvinit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> seem to have forgotten there were alternatives to sysvinit already...

Linux RenaissanceDevuan Linux Installation <a href="https://video.fosshq.org/videos/watch/0d06e694-dd97-4c5d-93a4-1c8208bd3161" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://video.fosshq.org/videos/watch/0d06e694-dd97-4c5d-93a4-1c8208bd3161</a>

Joel Carnat 📽️That systemd Thing: A Debate With No Ending <a href="https://eggflix.foolbazar.eu/videos/watch/dd6ab9d5-1ef9-4c35-91fa-e0885a1bcf50" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://eggflix.foolbazar.eu/videos/watch/dd6ab9d5-1ef9-4c35-91fa-e0885a1bcf50</a>

Grow FediverseOk fam, after about a week of being a complete and utter newbie ingesting tutorials about <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> I think I am finally understanding two things: what distros are, and that for some reason my brain will correlate ANY technical topic with food.Linux is ice cream Linux families are particular flavors of ice cream And like ice cream, there’s basically certain core flavors, many specific flavors, and always the potential to invent new flavors. The ice cream landscape seems to break out something like this to a newbie:Vanilla - Debian; French Vanilla - Ubuntu; Vanilla Bean - LMDE Chocolate - Red Hat; Chocolate Chip - Fedora; Chocolate chocolate chip - Alma; Fruit, Strawberry - Arch; Fruit, Peach or Cherry or pretty much any other fruit - any other Arch Caramel - Gentoo; Vanilla Caramel Swirl - Redcore Neapolitan and Spumoni - When you do super custom stuff like make Ubuntu have rolling release distro using Arch’s package system with Gentoo’s OpenRC for the init system Exotic, like cucumber or ranch or avocado - Everything else that isn’t one of the other big buckets like SUSE, Solus, Quirky, Zeroshell, Vine, etc. Nuts - Slackware (I mean this in an affectionate way, butter pecan is my fav!) Gelato - BSD Chocolate Gelato - SolarisLike ice cream, Linux can have toppings too: Sauce - init systems; and some people hate chocolate sauce - systemd Whipped cream. Yeah sure there’s different brands and differences in texture or flavor a bit, but they’re basically all doing the same stuff - Packaging Cherry - the GUI. It’s only there for looks, you could absolutely eat the ice cream without it, but most diners expect it on their sundaeDistros - An ice cream sundae. All the things (flavor, toppings, what it’s served in) are presented to you at once. Oooor some of the more lean ones are more like an ice cream cone Eating a pint of ice cream right outta the freezer container - CLI Homemade ice cream maker - LFS<a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Linuxnewbies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linuxnewbies</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=LinuxHumor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LinuxHumor</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gentoo</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Slackware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Slackware</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=ArchLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ArchLinux</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SysVinit</a>

jablkoziemne<a href="https://tux-edu.tv/accounts/darth" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@darth</a> What are the advantages of <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> over <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a>? Or you picked it just from your familiarity with it and <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#devuan</a> <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a>

Da Linux beardudeSo, from my notes:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/voidlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#voidlinux</a>: symlink a service's name from /etc/sv/ to /var/service to enable a service then sv up & down will become available for that service. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chimeralinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chimeralinux</a>: dinitctl, kinda like systemctl <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#devuan</a>: update-rc.d <service> default to get it on the runlevels, then enable/disable to do fun things. Only do update-rc.d remove when the package is removed from the system.. Gotcha<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#freesoftware</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#foss</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#debian</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dinit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a>

jbzTake that systemd (?)｢ The biggest change in SysVinit 3.14 is overcoming the 127 character per line limit of inittab files that has been there for roughly the past three decades. With SysVinit moving forward, inittab lines can be up to 253 characters long... Those with really long inittab lines are really best off punting off that logic to a shell script that can then be called from the inittab ｣<a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.14-Released" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.14-Released</a><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a>

OSTechNixHow To List All Running Daemons In Linux <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Daemon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Daemon</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Process" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Process</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Initsystem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Initsystem</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Systemd</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SysVinit</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxcommands" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linuxcommands</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxbasics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linuxbasics</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxhowto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linuxhowto</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxadministration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linuxadministration</a> <a href="https://ostechnix.com/list-all-running-daemons-in-linux/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://ostechnix.com/list-all-running-daemons-in-linux/</a>

smxiFound an obscure <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Linux</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#distro</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/side" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#side</a> that appears to be unique. That is, makes its own toolchain, which is what crazy from <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/frugalware" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#frugalware</a> said defines a base distro. Side uses <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/pisi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#pisi</a> package manager, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#sysvinit</a> and features <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/LXDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#LXDE</a> based <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#SDE</a> with <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/pekwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#pekwm</a> or <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/openbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#openbox</a> window manager.These odd little distros generally help <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/inxi" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#inxi</a> find and handle corner cases it had missed. In this case didn't have pisi pm/SDE handled.Wish I'd noticed side before inxi 3.3.37 went out but this always happens.

Habr[Перевод] Переосмысление PID 1. Часть 5Оглавление Переосмысление PID 1. Часть 1 Переосмысление PID 1. Часть 2 Переосмысление PID 1. Часть 3 Переосмысление PID 1. Часть 4 Переосмысление PID 1. Часть 5 Статус Все фичи, обозначенные выше уже реализованы. Прямо сейчас systemd может использоваться как временная замена Upstart и sysinit (по крайней мере до тех пор пока нету так много нативно реализованных сервисов upstart. Слава богу большинство дистрибутивов не сильно переживают о реализации нативных сервисов upstart, пока что.)<a href="https://habr.com/ru/articles/340162/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://habr.com/ru/articles/340162/</a><a href="https://zhub.link/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://zhub.link/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://zhub.link/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a>

Carl von LesquereuxAnd I'm not saying that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> is more difficult or that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a> is easier. Is that currently I don't have the time or motivation to search and read documentation to do something that I know how to do already in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a>.Then why did I try to install <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Devuan</a>? Because of curiosity, mainly. I thought "Why not try this now?" without too much consideration. I tend to take many life decisions with that mindset 😅.

Carl von LesquereuxI think I've become spoiled and/or too accustomed to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Systemd</a>, because last Thursday I tried to switch my home server (an old netbook) from <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> and I failed miserably. Not because it was too difficult, but because it was... tiring.See, like many <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> users, I like to mess around with computers and learn new things, but at this stage in my life I have other things to think about instead of configuring <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> and learning again how to set up a service to run without login.

PublicLewdnessFOSS init "SysVinit" has been updated to version 3.11. This update adds the ability to chain together multiple commands in the inittab file as well as updates to the inittab, halt, and fstab-decode manual pages. The code to SysVinit is licensed using GPLV2. You can find some distros shipping iso's with SysVinit as an option or the sole init such as Artix; PCLinuxOS; Deuvan; and more. The source code can be found on Github:<a href="https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit</a>Release notes for this update can be found here:<a href="https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/releases/tag/3.11" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/releases/tag/3.11</a><a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#foss</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/github" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#github</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/systemdfree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemdfree</a>

unixbhaskarUmmmmm 🤔 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/booting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#booting</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/manager" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#manager</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.11" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.11</a>

unixbhaskarUmmmmm 🤔 <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#linux</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/booting" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#booting</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/manager" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#manager</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no">https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.11</a>

Stephen McNamaraFirst time I've NOT been able to install tailscale on a device! I've seen some workarounds in githubs issues but for the limited testing time I need this VM around... Doesn't seem worth it. Prepping for a Linux cert? Don't forget that you will need to at least remember your SysV commands! It has been many moons for me 😬. Devuan Linux to the rescue! Do my Debian package management refresher & run services on SysV 🤓 what a trip down memory lane 😍<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a>

PublicLewdnessMX Linux has been updated to version 23.4 which is known as "Libretto". MX Linux is a distro based off Debian stable. It gives you an init choice between SysVinit and SystemD. They offer editions using XFCE and KDE. It uses the Liquorix kenrel by default but you can also easily install the libre kernel if one wanted to if you follow the instructions at FSFLA. It uses the Ext file system by default.The project's main website is here:<a href="https://mxlinux.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mxlinux.org/</a>The source code is on Github:<a href="https://github.com/MX-Linux" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/MX-Linux</a>The release notes for this update are here:<a href="https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-23-4-libretto-now-available/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-23-4-libretto-now-available/</a>The project has a forum and a presence on the fediverse:<a href="https://forum.mxlinux.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.mxlinux.org/</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mxlinux" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@mxlinux</a>The project accepts donations through Github, Paypal and Stripe if you wish to help financially:<a href="https://mxlinux.org/donate/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mxlinux.org/donate/</a><a href="https://github.com/sponsors/MX-Linux" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sponsors/MX-Linux</a><a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/mxlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mxlinux</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/initfreedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#initfreedom</a> <a href="https://gameliberty.club/tags/github" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#github</a>

ricardo :mastodon:Change Between <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#sysvinit</a> and <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#systemd</a> in <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/MXLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#MXLinux</a> :mxlinux: <a href="https://itsfoss.com/mxlinux-sysvinit-systemd/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no">https://itsfoss.com/mxlinux-sysvinit-systemd/</a>

André Machado :debian:SysVinit: The Traditional Approach SysVinit, the traditional init system used in UNIX and Linux systems, has been around since the 1980s. It follows a straightforward approach to system initialization: it runs a sequence of scripts in a specific order to bring the system to a usable state.More and Complete at: <a href="https://machaddr.substack.com/p/systemd-sysvinit-runit-and-openrc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://machaddr.substack.com/p/systemd-sysvinit-runit-and-openrc</a><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/init" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#init</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/computer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#computer</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#science</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a>

Linux TLDRCheck If You Are Using SystemD or Not in Linux <a href="https://noc.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://noc.social/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SysAdmin</a> <a href="https://noc.social/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> <a href="https://noc.social/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> <a href="https://noc.social/tags/SysVInit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SysVInit</a> <a href="https://noc.social/tags/Systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Systemd</a> <a href="https://linuxtldr.com/check-first-process-in-linux/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://linuxtldr.com/check-first-process-in-linux/</a>

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