@ajlewis2 @ellane @feralthoughts @hbowie @reichenstein

Just for clarification: same holds true for any other markup supported by pandoc, not just #Markdown.

However, if you stick with a syntax language that doesn't come with this explosion of flavors, you have less issues converting your data - in some cases you don't even have to convert at all any more.

The issue with Markdown is that its original form defined a small minimum of elements and each tool defined its own potentially incompatible extensions. With other #LML, the "original" or its standard defines the maximum set of elements and therefore, there is no need for "flavors" and no data loss or conversion effort.

HTH

@enverdemichelis MENO #LLM PIU' #LML

@amoroso My thoughts:

- They mix up Markdown with the general term lightweight #markup language (as if #Markdown is the only #LML syntax)

- They ignore all other markup syntax examples such as (La)TeX, HTML, ...

- great screenshots of Word for DOS upwards

- the title should be "#WYSIWYG vs. LML" (instead of the Word vs. Markdown story)

- no mentioning of other LML examples

Well it looks, as if we're settling for a mediocre standard again.

Related: https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/

@Xhuul I haven't found any decent #Markdown editor yet that convinced me.

And yes, I prefer Emacs with #orgmode.

I even write my text in Org and use the export-to-MD functions to generate the appropriate #MD.

That also saves me from remembering the MD-specifics of the current export target. I always mix up the MD flavors currently at hand because I need to use different MD-enabled tools on a daily basis and all of them have their special markup variants - sometimes it's even necessary to use, e.g., different table syntax (within the same MD tool!) for different table properties such as line breaks and stuff. It's really a bad mess with MD.

Btw: https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/

@pandoc Great idea!

Let's introduce one slightly change at a time and in a few years we could transform #Markdown into #orgdown without anybody noticing and finally get a consistently designed and easy to learn lightweight #markup language with excellent tool support.

https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/
https://gitlab.com/publicvoit/orgdown

@padeluun

Disclaimer: habe kein Golem+ und daher kenne ich den Inhalt des gesamten Artikels nicht.

Wenn man zwischen #WYSIWYG-Editoren, komplexen #Markup Sprachen wie #HTML oder #LaTeX und #Markdown unterscheidet, hat MD einige Vorteile.

Vergleicht man allerdings die Lightweight Markup Languages (#LML) untereinander, so sind die Nachteile von #MD im Vergleich zu den Alternativen offensichtlich.

Beispiel #orgmode: https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/

IMHO sollten bessere LML geboostet werden.

@ellane Oh, congrats to this new universe of opportunities.

Coming from that direction, you might want to read:

https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only

...still related to the syntax & following related to tooling:

https://karl-voit.at/orgmode/
https://karl-voit.at/2020/01/20/start-using-orgmode/

Meanwhile, I'm writing in #Orgdown & generate any #Markdown from that because there's no MD tooling that is able to compete.

Btw, I'll publish an article on lock-in effects related to MD-based tools like #Obsidian.

@pludikovsky When people are in favor of #Markdown, they either do mean the concept of lightweight #markup languages (#LML) in general (yeah!) or they do not really know many other LMLs in comparison.

Furthermore, people voting for MD often do ignore the obvious downsides of that ecosystem because they have already overcome some of them, ignoring the majority of people who still need to learn that LML in future.

@nickanderson @sudokill Related: #OrgMode Syntax Is One of the Most Reasonable Markup Languages to Use for Text https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/

... with qualified criticism on the syntax design of #Markdown and other #LML. #orgdown

HTH

@jackbaty @eludom I've written on the advantages of #orgdown (#orgmode syntax) in contrast to other #LML such as #markdown here: https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/

@eludom @jackbaty Yes. And there is much more on https://gitlab.com/publicvoit/orgdown/-/blob/master/doc/Tool-Support.org #orgdown #orgmode #tools #PIM #LML