Bon je reçois mon MP60 (mini PC que je vais foutre en petit serveur) mercredi, maintenant la question ... c'est quoi je fais ? Parce que je migrerais bien sur Hollo mais y a des trucs tellement pratique sur Misskey/Firefish/Iceshrimp, comme le Drive (qui permet un max d'économie de place surtout pour les .gif/.mp4 et j'adore vous polluer avec), le fait de pouvoir rebooster les posts déjà boostés indéfiniment (et donc sans avoir a virer le boost et le remettre), la recherche, mais ça reste lourd puis la migration depuis Misskey/Firefish/Iceshrimp ne fonctionne pas (a priori) 
#Hollo #Iceshrimp #Fediverse #Migration
#iceshrimp
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I think we're back to the "where to move this account" question. (and I have yet to find an answer.)
- First, when Firefish died, I thought the answer was going to be the new #Iceshrimp, but it's been more than a year and I'm not sure it's going to be a thing ever. (And I never fully liked Sharkey, for reasons)
- Next, I tried #Akkomane. I thought it was going to be the place, but a few things were deal breakers (I forgot which ones, whoops... but they did greatly bother me at the time)
- Then came #Wafrn. Despite the unpractical name, I love the idea (it uses both ActivityPub and ATProtocol natively), but the UI is just not for me.
- I've been waiting for #Ghost 6.0 release for a little while now. It's imminent. However, it doesn't seem that they will release a full #microblogging platform. I doubt that it'll be much different from the beta (which is great, but can't replace a full-blown platform)
- And I'm extremely interested in #Bonfire, but it won't be ready for users like me for another few months I believe...
Meanwhile, my feed hasn't been working for weeks on my account's #Firefish page, and now, the notifications have stopped working with #Phanpy (I've used this account, partly with the native UI and partly with Phanpy for a little while).
I guess a temporary #Mastodon account will have to be it until something that can replace it comes along (I'm confident that Bonfire will be the one, but I was confident Iceshrimp and Akkomane were going to be the ones too... So... 
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Tien Phanpy ne prend pas en charge les réactions venant de Akkoma sur une instance Iceshrimp ? 
#Phanpy #Akkoma #Iceshrimp
Hallo liebe alle,
zuerst einmal: ich mag #iceshrimp. Wirklich! Nur ist es so, dass mir viele eurer Beiträge nicht oder ziemlich stark verspätet in die Timeline gespült werden. Oft bekomme ich es erst mit, das jemand etwas gepostet hat, wenn es von jemand anderen geteilt wird. Daher habe ich beschlossen mich erst einmal auf meinen #friendica account @empe zu konzentrieren und diesen hier als backup zu nutzen. Das ist ja das coole am #fediverse. Man kann die Accounts wechseln wie andere die Unterhosen. Ich bleibe euch erhalten und ihr müsst nix anderes tun als @empe zu folgen
Oder auch nicht, ich hab euch ja nix zu sagen. Macht wie ihr wollt…
Ich folge Leuten um deren Posts und Content zu sehen. Wenn mir bei Iceshrimp gefühlt die Hälfte nicht angeziegt wird, ist das doch doof
#iceshrimp
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@fasnix @empe mhh ich wollte weg von mastodon…vielleicht muss ich mich nochmals mit friendica befassen #iceshrimp #iceshrimp
irgendwie zeigt mir mein zweitaccount mit #friendica @empe viel
mehr posts und content an als dieser account hier.. woran kann das liegen? folgys und gefolgte accounts sind quasi gleich #iceshrimp
Anyone using #iceshrimp.net ? If so, what's your experience been like?
Mine has been decent, but the frontend GUI crashes a lot.
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@hen@berlin.social so weit ich weiß nicht.
Solche Abfragen kannst du aber mit #Sharkey und #IceShrimp machen
Nennt sich hier Antennen oder NewsPicker
zudem sind das Wortfilter, also nicht auf # Hashtag beschränkt
Mit #Friendica ist so was sicher auch möglich
I got my mastodon cluster fully operational on seven servers!
I’d use #iceshrimp.net but there is no clustering :(
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@isAutonomous
Kennst du denn die anderen Applikationen? Zum Beispiel #Akkoma, #Pleroma, #Misskey, #Sharkey, #Iceshrimp, #Friendica, #Hubzilla, #GotToSocial, usw ? @jakob @crossgolf_rebel
Kennst du denn die anderen Applikationen? Zum Beispiel #Akkoma, #Pleroma, #Misskey, #Sharkey, #Iceshrimp, #Friendica, #Hubzilla, #GotToSocial, usw ? @jakob @crossgolf_rebel
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@isAutonomous@karlsruhe-social.de ja, nutze #Friendica, #Sharkey #IceShrimp #Hubzilla #Streams als Zugan ins Fediverse
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@Osma A 
This would require three things, however.
One, any Fediverse server software would have to be capable of altering comments from any Fediverse software. Don't think that posts, comments etc. aren't formatted the same everywhere. They aren't.
For example, Mastodon would have to know and understand that it would have to remove
Two, anyone in the Fediverse would have to always have full and unlimited permission to alter everyone else's content without their consent. This is particularly crucial in the cases of Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte with their highly advanced and fine-grained permissions systems that don't even cover having your content altered by others.
Three, edits on any Fediverse software must always be federated to absolutely everywhere and anywhere in the Fediverse, no exceptions, regardless of software. AFAIK, there is Fediverse server software that still doesn't understand edits at all, and that will either ignore received edits or understand them as and treat them like new posts.
It's very similar to the wish for being able to edit alt-texts into other people's posts which seems to pretty much always come from people who think that the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or at least that everything in the Fediverse is like Mastodon plus one or two extra features.
And let's be honest: If you give especially Mastodon users the ability to alter other people's posts, they will want to alter other people's posts in lots of other ways. Like, delete summaries on Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte posts because they're "abuse of the CW field" from a "Fediverse = Mastodon" point of view. Remove all hashtags but four, regardless of these hashtags triggering the automated, individual, reader-side content warnings that have existed in the Friendica family since five and a half years before Mastodon was first published. Cutting "long posts" (= everything over 500 characters) down to a maximum of 500 characters because "the Fediverse was invented by Eugen Rochko for only microblogging". Even removing any and all mentions of the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. Removing text formatting because "it has no place in a Twitter alternative". Or removing all contents from posts or comments altogether.
Of course, the very same Mastodon users will completely flip their shit if a Friendica user comes and copies their 20-post threads into one long post, deletes the contents of the 19 follow-ups afterwards and replaces the content warning in the abstract field (= their CW field) with an actual abstract, just to fit it into a Fediverse culture that's way older than Mastodon itself.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Misskey #Sharkey #CherryPick #Iceshrimp #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Mention #Mentions #MentionTag #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #Permission #Permissions
This would require three things, however.One, any Fediverse server software would have to be capable of altering comments from any Fediverse software. Don't think that posts, comments etc. aren't formatted the same everywhere. They aren't.
For example, Mastodon would have to know and understand that it would have to remove
@osma@mas.to from Misskey, Sharkey, CherryPick, Iceshrimp etc. notes, @[url=https://mas.to/users/osma]Osma A [/url] from Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte comments and an invisible shadow mention from (streams) and Forte comments, too.Two, anyone in the Fediverse would have to always have full and unlimited permission to alter everyone else's content without their consent. This is particularly crucial in the cases of Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte with their highly advanced and fine-grained permissions systems that don't even cover having your content altered by others.
Three, edits on any Fediverse software must always be federated to absolutely everywhere and anywhere in the Fediverse, no exceptions, regardless of software. AFAIK, there is Fediverse server software that still doesn't understand edits at all, and that will either ignore received edits or understand them as and treat them like new posts.
It's very similar to the wish for being able to edit alt-texts into other people's posts which seems to pretty much always come from people who think that the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or at least that everything in the Fediverse is like Mastodon plus one or two extra features.
And let's be honest: If you give especially Mastodon users the ability to alter other people's posts, they will want to alter other people's posts in lots of other ways. Like, delete summaries on Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte posts because they're "abuse of the CW field" from a "Fediverse = Mastodon" point of view. Remove all hashtags but four, regardless of these hashtags triggering the automated, individual, reader-side content warnings that have existed in the Friendica family since five and a half years before Mastodon was first published. Cutting "long posts" (= everything over 500 characters) down to a maximum of 500 characters because "the Fediverse was invented by Eugen Rochko for only microblogging". Even removing any and all mentions of the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. Removing text formatting because "it has no place in a Twitter alternative". Or removing all contents from posts or comments altogether.
Of course, the very same Mastodon users will completely flip their shit if a Friendica user comes and copies their 20-post threads into one long post, deletes the contents of the 19 follow-ups afterwards and replaces the content warning in the abstract field (= their CW field) with an actual abstract, just to fit it into a Fediverse culture that's way older than Mastodon itself.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Misskey #Sharkey #CherryPick #Iceshrimp #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Mention #Mentions #MentionTag #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #Permission #Permissions
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Olen nyt 1,5 vuorokautta testannut #iceshrimp -alustan .net -versiota, ja vaikka frontend on raakile, itse systeemi on hyvin toimiva ja nopea. Kaikki perustoiminnot pelaavat hyvin.
Ottakaa uusi instanssini ja tilini @AlderForrest@divergent.1m2lab.engineer seurantaan. Tämä instanssi ajetaan vähitellen alas tämän vuoden loppuun.
#fediadmin #1m2lab
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@Ben Pate 
Let's just say the only devs who need full identity portability are silverpill and you, and silverpill is actively working on it.
Then there are Mike, Mario Vavti and Harald Eilertsen who have full identity portability.
All the other devs don't seem to care.
As for the users, however... I guess if Mastodon 4.5 went fully nomadic on Forte's scale, people would kiss Gargron's feet because he'd deliver what they've been craving for for so long. For not exactly few of them, this would be what they've been wishing for for years plus cream and a cherry on top.
And if all the various *keys (at least those that are still maintained) went nomadic on a cross-server-type scale, that'd solve the problem with entire Forkeys going belly-up and leaving its users standing in the rain with unmaintained server software. I mean, I guess we all know how volatile Forkeys tend to be. Not only could people move around from server to server with ease and take everything with them, but they could also try out new Forkeys (this explicitly includes Iceshrimp.NET) and still have clones on longer-lived applications like Sharkey, CherryPick or good old Misskey itself as fallbacks.
In fact, I think one reason for Sharkey's popularity is its import/export capability.
CC: @Marcus Rohrmoser
@Johannes Ernst @Tim Chambers
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #CherryPick #Sharkey #Iceshrimp #Iceshrimp.NET #NomadicIdentity
Let's just say the only devs who need full identity portability are silverpill and you, and silverpill is actively working on it.Then there are Mike, Mario Vavti and Harald Eilertsen who have full identity portability.
All the other devs don't seem to care.
As for the users, however... I guess if Mastodon 4.5 went fully nomadic on Forte's scale, people would kiss Gargron's feet because he'd deliver what they've been craving for for so long. For not exactly few of them, this would be what they've been wishing for for years plus cream and a cherry on top.
And if all the various *keys (at least those that are still maintained) went nomadic on a cross-server-type scale, that'd solve the problem with entire Forkeys going belly-up and leaving its users standing in the rain with unmaintained server software. I mean, I guess we all know how volatile Forkeys tend to be. Not only could people move around from server to server with ease and take everything with them, but they could also try out new Forkeys (this explicitly includes Iceshrimp.NET) and still have clones on longer-lived applications like Sharkey, CherryPick or good old Misskey itself as fallbacks.
In fact, I think one reason for Sharkey's popularity is its import/export capability.
CC: @Marcus Rohrmoser
@Johannes Ernst @Tim Chambers#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #CherryPick #Sharkey #Iceshrimp #Iceshrimp.NET #NomadicIdentity
Indieweb.Social Tim Chambers (@tchambers@indieweb.social)61.7K Posts, 5.09K Following, 17.3K Followers · Technologist, writer, who is fascinated by how new politics impacts technology and vice versa. #fedi22 #indieweb #fediverse
@Chris ABRAHAM Do you absolutely depend on being on Mastodon (as opposed of the rest of the Fediverse)?
Because there is Fediverse server software (as in federated with Mastodon, as in you can follow Mastodon users from there, and Mastodon users can follow you when you're there) that offers way more than 500 characters. It may also offer other features which you may want Mastodon to have, or which are even completely unimaginable from the point of view of someone who knows the Fediverse as only Mastodon. Some examples:
CC: @Stefan Bohacek
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Iceshrimp #Sharkey #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits
Because there is Fediverse server software (as in federated with Mastodon, as in you can follow Mastodon users from there, and Mastodon users can follow you when you're there) that offers way more than 500 characters. It may also offer other features which you may want Mastodon to have, or which are even completely unimaginable from the point of view of someone who knows the Fediverse as only Mastodon. Some examples:
- Misskey: 3,000 characters, hard-coded
- Misskey forks (Iceshrimp, Sharkey etc.): thousands of characters, configurable by admin
- Pleroma, Akkoma: 5,000 characters, configurable by admin
- Friendica: 200,000 characters, probably hard-coded
- Hubzilla: 16,777,215 characters, database field size limit (this is where I'm replying to you from right now)
- (streams), Forte: over 24 million characters
CC: @Stefan Bohacek
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Iceshrimp #Sharkey #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits
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Selbst mit meinem eigenen Post kann ich nicht interagieren (geschrieben von iceshrimp.de, aber "einsortiert" als von dresden.network stammend) O_o
@phanpy
#IceShrimp #Mastodon #FediVerse #Föderation #phanpy
Wenn ich in phanpy einen Post aufrufe, sehe ich die Antworten darauf, obwohl es heißt, ich müsse mich mit "meiner Instanz anmelden".
Wenn ich mich dann "mit meiner Instanz" angemeldet habe, sehe ich die Antworten nicht mehr.
Woran kann das liegen?
iceshrimp.de föderiert doch mit dresden.network und ich interagiere ja seit Monaten auch mit Beiträgen von dresden.network.
Fiel mir mit anderen Instanzen auch schon auf ...
cc @phanpy
#IceShrimp #Mastodon #FediVerse #Föderation #Phanpy
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@daarin@mastodon.social das wo ist eigentlich egal, also Instanz mäßig.
Die Frage ist, willst du komplett Umziehen oder nur ein Blog ins Fediverse einbinden?
Für einen Komplettumzug bietet sich #Sharkey oder #IceShrimp an, sieht ähnlich aus wie Mastodon, kann aber wesentlich mehr als nur mehr zeichen.
Soll es generell mehr sein, dann sind auch #Friendica oder #Hubzilla eine Option, auch mit der Verwaltung von Nutzerkreisen und echten Gruppen
Dritte Variante, #writeFreely als Blog im Fediverse oder das eigene WordPress mitttels #ActivityPub Plugin ins Fediverse bringen.
Bei Fragen, einfach melden 
TheZeldaZone
"Iceshrimp" is a bit TOO easy in the "fediverse software or Pokemon" but an Interesting Choice
"Yeah, I'm on that fucking #Iceshrimp shit" = known Linux User