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Talkredius :horn_fb: :tardis:@tinoeberl Es erheitert mich immer wieder wie überraschend simple physikalische Gegebenheiten für einige "Experten" in der EU sind,wobei eine einfache Googlesuche hier helfen kann : H2 ist das kleinste Atom, diffundiert also durch die dicksten Stahlflaschen/leitungen in kürzester Zeit => Lagerung/Transport nur flüssig oder hoher Druck. Erfahrungen:: BWM Flughafen Münch.+ Betreiber von H2 Tanke. <a href="https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC140673" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC140673</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Wasserstoffwirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wasserstoffwirtschaft</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Energiewende" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Energiewende</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Pipeline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pipeline</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Werkstofftechnik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Werkstofftechnik</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a>

Talkredius :horn_fb: :tardis:<a href="https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tinoeberl</a> Es erheitert mich immer wieder wie überraschend simple physikalische Gegebenheiten für einige "Experten" in der EU sind,wobei eine einfache Googlesuche hier helfen kann : H2 ist das kleinste Atom, diffundiert also durch die dicksten Stahlflaschen/leitungen in kürzester Zeit => Lagerung/Transport nur flüssig oder hoher Druck. Erfahrungen:: BWM Flughafen Münch.+ Betreiber von H2 Tanke. <a href="https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC140673" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC140673</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Wasserstoffwirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wasserstoffwirtschaft</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Energiewende" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Energiewende</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Pipeline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pipeline</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/Werkstofftechnik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Werkstofftechnik</a> <a href="https://dizl.de/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a>

Tino Eberl<a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wasserstoff</a> gilt als Hoffnungsträger für die <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Dekarbonisierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Dekarbonisierung</a>, doch beim Transport durch bestehende <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Erdgasleitungen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Erdgasleitungen</a> gibt es <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Sicherheitsrisiken" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sicherheitsrisiken</a>.Wasserstoff macht Stahl spröder, schwächt die <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Bruchfestigkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bruchfestigkeit</a> und durchdringt <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Kunststoffe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kunststoffe</a>. Ein Bericht der EU zeigt, dass viele Fragen zur Materialbeständigkeit und <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Sicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sicherheit</a> im Dauerbetrieb noch offen sind.<a href="https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC140673" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC140673</a><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Wasserstoffwirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wasserstoffwirtschaft</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Energiewende" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Energiewende</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Pipeline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pipeline</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Werkstofftechnik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Werkstofftechnik</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Energiewende" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Energiewende</a>

KeithDPatch<a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/HydrogenSafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HydrogenSafety</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Hydrogen101" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen101</a> 🎆 🔥 2025Mar31 Korea Supreme Court: +10B won US$6.8MM damages award for 2019 Gangneung hydrogen explosion, which killed 2 injured 6 1) No oxygen monitor on <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hydrogen</a> gas produced by electrolyzer 2) Unqualified incompetent company was in charge!Conclusion: use qualified people who know <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2</a> safetyMy 2024 post with more technical details:<a href="https://bit.ly/3E1v5jR" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3E1v5jR</a><a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2safety</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/electrolysis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#electrolysis</a>

KeithDPatch<a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Hydrogen101" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen101</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> Hydrogen fuel cell lab explosion in Yongin, South Korea sends 5 to hospital with minor injuries via <a href="https://bird.makeup/users/hydrogeninsight" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@hydrogeninsight</a> My view from 6899mi away: plastic tubing (🟧below) was used for <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hydrogen</a> gas & failed. 🟥circle shows the melted end of a tube! <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/fuelcell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fuelcell</a> <a href="https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/five-people-injured-in-explosion-at-hydrogen-fuel-cell-lab-in-south-korea/2-1-1796899" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/five-people-injured-in-explosion-at-hydrogen-fuel-cell-lab-in-south-korea/2-1-1796899</a>

KeithDPatch<a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Hydrogen101" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen101</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> Why is Supercritical Solutions Ltd <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/SSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SSL</a> allowed to develop a totally unsafe membrane-free <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hydrogen</a> production device?4 ways <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/SSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SSL</a> fails @isostandards ISO 22734: 1)No insulating membrane 2)Membrane is porous 3)O2 in <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2</a> 4)H2 in <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/O2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#O2</a>All it takes is a particle of catalyst (or rust) flaking off and flowing downstream, then BOOM1💥 <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#safety</a>

KeithDPatch🧵4/4 <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> Here's the link about the 2011Aug09 hydrogen/oxygen <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/HHO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HHO</a> explosion💥 in Los Angeles: 2 maimed, a third injured:<a href="http://bit.ly/MXZFsw" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/MXZFsw</a>This 2011 accident occurred 14 months after another💥that killed one! And they had a smaller 💥 in 2008! <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/O2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#O2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/HHO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HHO</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Brownsgas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Brownsgas</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/oxyhydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oxyhydrogen</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/hydroxygas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hydroxygas</a>

KeithDPatch🧵3/4 <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Hydrogen101" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen101</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> Lower flammability limit <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/LFL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LFL</a> for H2 in O2 is 4%. <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/HHO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HHO</a> is 67% H2 (16.75x higher!) & quite explosive! <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/O2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#O2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/HHO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HHO</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Brownsgas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Brownsgas</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/oxyhydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oxyhydrogen</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/hydroxygas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hydroxygas</a>

KeithDPatch🧵2/4 <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Hydrogen101" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen101</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> 💥BOOM! due to the explosive stoichiometric mixture of hydrogen/oxygen, also called HHO, Brown's gas, oxyhydrogen or hydroxy gas.@lafd.bsky.social photos show what can happen when a speck of rust (or catalyst from the electrodes) ignites the hazardous mixture.

KeithDPatch🧵1/4 <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/Hydrogen101" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hydrogen101</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a> Hey UK Health and Safety Executive <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/HSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HSE</a> :Why is Clean Power Hydrogen <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/CleanPowerH2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CleanPowerH2</a> allowed to sell a totally unsafe membrane-free <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hydrogen</a> production device?@isostandards ISO 22734 requires: -Membrane between <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2</a> & <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/O2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#O2</a> -Operation below hydrogen's <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/LFL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LFL</a>Otherwise...

BAM MaterialforschungLesetipp📖 "Klimaschäden durch undichte <a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wasserstoff</a>-Leitungen – Bundesregierung sieht Forschungsbedarf" @handelsblatt mit <a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/BAMResearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BAMResearch</a> <a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a>-Sprecher Kai Holtappels zu Forschung an Materialien/Werkstoffen für Pipelines + Wasserstoffinfrastrukturen: <a href="https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/dekarbonisierung-klimaschaeden-durch-undichte-wasserstoff-leitungen-bundesregierung-sieht-forschungsbedarf/28914744.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/dekarbonisierung-klimaschaeden-durch-undichte-wasserstoff-leitungen-bundesregierung-sieht-forschungsbedarf/28914744.html</a>

BAM Materialforschung<a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/Bestof2022" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bestof2022</a>: Interview mit <a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/BAMResearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BAMResearch</a> Wissenschaftler & Sprecher des Kompetenzzentrums <a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/H2Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H2Safety</a>, Kai Holtappels, zu den Chancen einer Wasserstoffwirtschaft & Beratung im Forschungsnetzwerk <a href="https://social.bund.de/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wasserstoff</a>, gefördert <a href="https://social.bund.de/@BMWK" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@BMWK</a> <a href="https://www.bam.de/Content/DE/Interviews/energie-interview-holtappels-h2.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.bam.de/Content/DE/Interviews/energie-interview-holtappels-h2.html</a>

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