fosstodon.org is one of the many independent Mastodon servers you can use to participate in the fediverse.
Fosstodon is an invite only Mastodon instance that is open to those who are interested in technology; particularly free & open source software. If you wish to join, contact us for an invite.

Administered by:

Server stats:

9.9K
active users

#Fastmail

2 posts2 participants0 posts today

Hey @thunderbird

If you want, you can try out #alectors, my NLRL library, for #spam or #fraud #detection on #emails for #thundermail.

Check it out at https://apotheke.earth/docs/alectors

It uses a pretrained #encoder to embed natural language into vector space, and then passes the vectors through a #transformer-based PPO agent, so that the output can have a custom number of dimentions. This means that rather than having an #LLM agent with a #prompt "[...] PLEASE OUTPUT PROPER JSON [...]", you can ensure that the output will be one of three, four, or as many actions.as you define.

The only downside is that you will have to train the agent yourself, as we as come up with an environment (I am working with a friend/colleague on custom nlrl env api, but its pre-prealpha).

Concerning the license, it is #sourcefirst, meaning that it has a clause for #fair #compensation regardimg #commercial #use. For this usecase, by #thunderbird, I would be perfectly happy with simply a #thundermail account so I can leave #fastmail and still use all two of my domains for email.

apotheke.earthalectors

For tooters seeking to join ’s excellent email service:

10% off your first year
(and $10 referral perk for me)

join.fastmail.com/44dac0b6

I have been supremely content with the quality of service, meaningful & extensive features, + beta innovation engagment.
Repeat renewal of subscription over many years…

join.fastmail.comCreate your Fastmail accountMake email yours when you create a Fastmail account today. Choose the privacy-focused email that’s perfect for you!

So #FastMail is great overall, but I'm having pretty serious problems with it sending too much to spam.

Receipts, email validations, shipping notifications, it's gotten much worse. Years ago, I rarely had to check spam, maybe once or twice a month and I'd catch a couple things. Now I have to check ALL the time. And when I tell it something doesn't belong, it doesn't learn. A day or two later I find that same sender back in spam again. I'm getting tired.

I’m poking around in #infomaniak email service and it is fantastic! I could have a separate user for my #selfhosted services who don’t have access to my personal emails. Nice web interface and very nice mobile app. I think I want to migrate from #Fastmail to have my emails in Europe. Also this is a good opportunity to also move my main email address into my personal domain, so I don’t bound to a specific email provider.
#homelab #email #Europe #eualternatives #emailproviders

What value do you guys see in regard to using an email client like #Thunderbird vs using a webmail client like #Fastmail via a browser tab?

My requirements are super basic. I mostly receive email and occasionally send some. I don't have any sort of complex organization structure. I don't send or receive encrypted email.

Is there some feature that I'm thinking about?

Replied in thread

@cybervegan #Fastmail is an Australian, employee-owned company that is highly ethical. I've been a satisfied customer for well over 20 years. They can import from Gmail, then you can sync locally at your leisure.

However, it's hosted in the US and they've been dismissive (so far) about concerns (which I share) about this. Https://emaildiscussions.com may be worth a look for informed opinion.

emaildiscussions.comEmailDiscussions.com Email Discussion ForumsThis is a discussion forum.

After using Proton for 8 months, I made the move from 🠆 .

My thoughts:

👍 I love that Proton apps are open-source, this is a big win for me.

👎 Server-side Encryption - In theory this is a good idea, in practice this is a huge pain. On mobile, you're forced to use the Proton app, which is unbelievably slow. On desktop, you cannot verify senders with DKIM.
👎 Proton leadership supports what Trump is doing to the US, while not my reason for leaving, it gave me doubts about Proton.

So I've left #fastmail and am now on #tuta. This was a long decision making process and I nearly went with #mailbox.org and #posteo, but for me #tuta fits the bill. I don't need IMAP or SMTP. The tuta app works fine and so does the web interface. I chose tuta because it's does things differently and it's clear that privacy and security are the priority.

Fastmail was and is a perfectly good email provider, they just don't give me the same peace of mind, nor privacy features.

Continued thread

Thank you all for the feedback.
Given some of the complexities around and the fact that the other receiver needs the same E2EE, I chose not to use Proton.
I am now working to update to my new email/domain with instead. I will use a separate end-to-end standard if I really need it.

Replied in thread

@ndw I've been a happy customer of #Fastmail (they're on Mastodon, too: @fastmail) since January 2018, and can comfortably recommend them if you're looking for a solid email host.
They're based in #Australia, and have full support for #IMAP, #CalDAV, #CardDAV, as-well as #JMAP if your tool(s) supports that. I like that they only do email and do it well. No ever-expanding product suite of tools I don't really need, nor any confusion on who the customer is. Nice and straight-forward :).

Replied in thread

@uhuru @Anarcat

No, I am not saying that. There are fundamental differences:

* #Fastmail is not a monopoly trying to break all standards, but works just on the open protocols (remember, #OpenProtocols are more important than #OpenSource)

* you are a customer of Fastmail not a product being sold to the advertisers, the real customers of Google.

* if anything wrong happens with Fastmail, you can just take your emails and go elsewhere; not so easy with Google