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✨ New from @NGICommons: We interviewed Nil Homedes Busquet @nilhb from @decidim to explore how participatory #democracy can scale — as a true #DigitalCommons.
#Decidim means "we decide" in Catalan, and that ethos runs deep in both their code and community governance.
Read about their journey, governance model, and funding challenges👇
🔗 commons.ngi.eu/2025/08/04/deci

#FOSS #CivicTech #PublicCode #CommonsBasedGovernance
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It's time to lower your inhibitions towards just asking a human the answer to your question.

In the early nineties, effectively before the internet, that's how you learned a lot of stuff. Your other option was to look it up in a book. I was a kid then, so I asked my parents a lot of questions.

Then by ~2000 or a little later, it started to feel almost rude to do this, because Google was now a thing, along with Wikipedia. "Let me Google that for you" became a joke website used to satirize the poor fool who would waste someone's time answering a random question. There were some upsides to this, as well as downsides. I'm not here to judge them.

At this point, Google doesn't work any more for answering random questions, let alone more serous ones. That era is over. If you don't believe it, try it yourself. Between Google intentionally making their results worse to show you more ads, the SEO cruft that already existed pre-LLMs, and the massive tsunami of SEO slop enabled by LLMs, trustworthy information is hard to find, and hard to distinguish from the slop. (I posted an example earlier: kolektiva.social/@tiotasram/11)

In fact, the problem is worse than in the '90s, because instead of hitting a dead end at the library, you'll be offered some Premium Synthetic Truth-Shaped Content™, and you'll have to learn to dodge that stuff even for questions that do have an answer out there somewhere.

Many people have opined more eloquently than me on this shift, but my conclusion is: it's time to start asking people questions again and not be embarrassed by it. "Asking the internet" like on social media is one way to do this, but that has a lot of the same problems. I'm talking about asking (online or not) a specific person you know and trust. Doesn't have to be an expert, just someone you think might know the answer, or who might have fun looking for it with you, or who might be bored and willing to help out. Lots of us are lonely on here and would sometimes love to help look something up (or might even know an answer). This can be a good excuse for more direct human-to-human dialog (online or offline) as well, which is something that's waned since the '90s. I'm not exactly nostalgic for 1998, but I think it's time to ask each other questions again. (Okay, yes, I still watch Broodwar; this season of ASL is set to be amazing.)

As a gesture of following my own advice here, if you've read this far, feel free (if you would like) to DM me a question, or reply that you're open to being asked questions and I might DM you one. No guarantees of a speedy response.

kolektiva.socialTiota Sram (@tiotasram@kolektiva.social)So I've found my answer after maybe ~30 minutes of effort. First stop was the first search result on Startpage (https://millennialhawk.com/does-poop-have-calories/), which has some evidence of maybe-AI authorship but which is better than a lot of slop. It actually has real links & cites research, so I'll start by looking at the sources. It claims near the top that poop contains 4.91 kcal per gram (note: 1 kcal = 1 Calorie = 1000 calories, which fact I could find/do trust despite the slop in that search). Now obviously, without a range or mention of an average, this isn't the whole picture, but maybe it's an average to start from? However, the citation link is to a study (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32235930/) which only included 27 people with impaired glucose tolerance and obesity. Might have the cited stat, but it's definitely not a broadly representative one if this is the source. The public abstract does not include the stat cited, and I don't want to pay for the article. I happen to be affiliated with a university library, so I could see if I have access that way, but it's a pain to do and not worth it for this study that I know is too specific. Also most people wouldn't have access that way. Side note: this doing-the-research protect has the nice benefit of letting you see lots of cool stuff you wouldn't have otherwise. The abstract of this study is pretty cool and I learned a bit about gut microbiome changes from just reading the abstract. My next move was to look among citations in this article to see if I could find something about calorie content of poop specifically. Luckily the article page had indicators for which citations were free to access. I ended up reading/skimming 2 more articles (a few more interesting facts about gut microbiomes were learned) before finding this article whose introduction has what I'm looking for: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3127503/ Here's the relevant paragraph: """ The alteration of the energy-balance equation, which is defined by the equilibrium of energy intake and energy expenditure (1–5), leads to weight gain. One less-extensively-studied component of the energy-balance equation is energy loss in stools and urine. Previous studies of healthy adults showed that ≈5% of ingested calories were lost in stools and urine (6). Individuals who consume high-fiber diets exhibit a higher fecal energy loss than individuals who consume low-fiber diets with an equivalent energy content (7, 8). Webb and Annis (9) studied stool energy loss in 4 lean and 4 obese individuals and showed a tendency to lower the fecal energy excretion in obese compared with lean study participants. """ And there's a good-enough answer if we do some math, along with links to more in-depth reading if we want them. A Mayo clinic calorie calculator suggests about 2250 Calories per day for me to maintain my weight, I think there's probably a lot of variation in that number, but 5% of that would be very roughly 100 Calories lost in poop per day, so maybe an extremely rough estimate for a range of humans might be 50-200 Calories per day. Interestingly, one of the AI slop pages I found asserted (without citation) 100-200 Calories per day, which kinda checks out. I had no way to trust that number though, and as we saw with the provenance of the 4.91 kcal/gram, it might not be good provenance. To double-check, I visited this link from the paragraph above: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022316622169853?via%3Dihub It's only a 6-person study, but just the abstract has numbers: ~250 kcal/day pooped on a low-fiber diet vs. ~400 kcal/day pooped on a high-fiber diet. That's with intakes of ~2100 and ~2350 kcal respectively, which is close to the number from which I estimated 100 kcal above, so maybe the first estimate from just the 5% number was a bit low. Glad those numbers were in the abstract, since the full text is paywalled... It's possible this study was also done on some atypical patient group... Just to come full circle, let's look at that 4.91 kcal/gram number again. A search suggests 14-16 ounces of poop per day is typical, with at least two sources around 14 ounces, or ~400 grams. (AI slop was strong here too, with one including a completely made up table of "studies" that was summarized as 100-200 grams/day). If we believe 400+ grams/day of poop, then 4.91 kcal/gram would be almost 2000 kcal/day, which is very clearly ludicrous! So that number was likely some unrelated statistic regurgitated by the AI. I found that number in at least 3 of the slop pages I waded through in my initial search.

Tom Lehrer (1928–2025) made musical satire sing…and sting. His songs were funny, outrageous, & often uncomfortably true.

He died recently at 97. Years earlier, he disclaimed copyright to all his lyrics and compositions; a gesture as radical as his songs.

We remember his life, his legacy, & what it means for the #digitalcommons ⤵️
blog.archive.org/2025/08/01/to

Essential Reading ->

"One could argue that by repurposing creative works, AI has expanded the art multiplier: each dollar spent on the arts now yields its usual social return, as well as additional value derived from its incorporation into AI systems.

Yet, despite the value of their contributions, public funding for artists and creators has steadily declined. In the United Kingdom, for example, direct support from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport to national arts bodies fell by 18% per person in real terms between 2009-10 and 2022-23. Over the same period, core funding for arts councils dropped by 18% in England, 22% in Scotland, 25% in Wales, and 66% in Northern Ireland. As generative AI continues to churn out synthetic content and displace human labor, that support must increase to reflect the realities of a changing creative economy.

Admittedly, with public finances under pressure and debt on the rise, this is hardly the time for unchecked government spending. Any additional funding would need to be financed responsibly. While a detailed policy blueprint is beyond the scope of this article, it’s worth noting that the enormous profits generated by major tech firms could be partially redirected to support the creative communities that power their models.

One way to achieve this would be to impose a levy on the gross revenues of the largest AI providers, collected by a national or multilateral agency. As the technology becomes increasingly embedded in daily life and production processes, the revenue flowing to AI firms is bound to grow – and so, too, will contributions to the fund. These resources could then be distributed by independent grant councils on multiyear cycles, ensuring that support reaches a wide range of disciplines and regions."

project-syndicate.org/onpoint/

Project SyndicateAI Should Help Fund Creative LaborMariana Mazzucato & Fausto Gernone show how today’s innovation economy exploits the very people it relies on and propose a fairer system.
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Free software is critical infrastructure, yet its upkeep falls on volunteers while giants like Microsoft or Google profit. As with other public goods, they should fund it via a dedicated tax feeding (like roads) a European fund (EU-STF) to ensure security and digital sovereignty. Europeans shouldn’t pay so Amazon can remain a free rider.

You can now watch in replay the official launch event of the OpenFisca Association and discover the path for further adoption of #RulesAsCode, the governance of transformative #DigitalCommons and the state of OpenFisca adoption around the world.
videos.lescommuns.org/w/3w9FrF
Thanks again to our speakers for sharing their insights: Ambassador @HenriVerdier; CEO of @dpgalliance Liv Nordhaug; Senior G7 Researcher Jess Rapson; CEO of GovTechTokyo; association executive director @MattiSG!

Wir sind 2025 wieder im @bUmBerlin@social.bum.berlin! 🎉

Das #TYPO3CampBerlin findet erneut im Raum für solidarisches Miteinander statt – mitten in Kreuzberg, direkt am Kanal. Offen, inklusiv, gemeinwohl-orientiert – so soll’s sein! 🌍💬

📅 17.-18. Oktober
📍 Paul-Lincke-Ufer 21, 10999 Berlin
🎟️ Tickets: t3cb.de/tickets/

💛 WICHTIG - damit das bUm bleiben kann: bum.berlin/bleibt

🌍 In Milan: the @NGICommons General Assembly just discussed the future of the #NGI and the new Open Internet Stack.

"The OIS label must carry the spirit of NGI," said @Mélanie Dulong de Rosnay.
If you wish to read more: commons.ngi.eu/2025/07/14/embr

The future is open—and it's being built now. 🛠️

🗓️ Save the date: NGI Policy Summit – 20 Nov 2025.

#OpenInternetStack #DigitalCommons #PublicInfrastructure

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@openfuture
@OpenForumEurope
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@linuxfoundation

Aanvraag voor EDIC Digital Commons ingediend

Op 8 juli hebben Frankrijk, Duitsland, Italië en Nederland de aanvraag ondertekend en ingediend bij de Europese Commissie om de European Digital Infrastructure Consortium (EDIC) Digitale Gemeenschapsgoederen (Digital Commons) op te richten.

Het doel van de EDIC is om de digitale autonomie van Europa en haar lidstaten te versterken.

Lees verder: digitaleoverheid.nl/nieuws/aan.

Aanvraag voor EDIC Digital Commons ingediend

Op 8 juli 2025 hebben Frankrijk, Duitsland, Italië en Nederland de aanvraag ondertekend en ingediend bij de Europese Commissie om de European Digital Infrastructure Consortium (EDIC) Digitale Gemeenschapsgoederen (Digital Commons) op te richten. 

Het doel van de EDIC is om de digitale autonomie van Europa en haar lidstaten te versterken. De EDIC Digitale Gemeenschapsgoederen sluit direct aan op de recent gepubliceerde Nederlandse Digitaliseringsstrategie (NDS).

Het vergroten van de digitale autonomie

Om de digitale autonomie te vergroten, is het nodig dat Europa meer producten en diensten zelf ontwikkelt. De EDIC Digitale Gemeenschapsgoederen zal functioneren als een platform, zowel fysiek als digitaal. Om bedrijven, maatschappelijke organisaties, wetenschappers en overheden met elkaar te verbinden. Dit helpt om financiering sneller te regelen, ondersteuning te bieden en netwerken te vergroten.

Beslissing Europese Commissie

Voor nu wachten de lidstaten de beslissing af van de Europese Commissie. Na goedkeuring zal de Europese Unie bijna 2,5 miljoen euro financieren van het EDIC-budget. De betrokken lidstaten dragen samen ruim 2,8 miljoen euro bij.

Dit is een automatisch geplaatst bericht. Vragen of opmerkingen kun je richten aan @DigitaleOverheid@social.overheid.nl

Wir gestalten die Zukunft europäischer digitaler Infrastrukturen und digitaler Souveränität – und zwar gemeinsam!🇪🇺
Wir haben am European Digital Infrastructure Consortium for #DigitalCommons von Anfang mitgewirkt, um unsere Arbeit an kritischen offenen Technologien auf europäischer Ebene zu verstärken und zu koordinieren. Wir freuen uns über den Startschuss und auf die Zusammenarbeit mit unseren europäischen Partnern 🇫🇷🇳🇱🇮🇹!

#DigitaleGemeinschaftsgüter #EDIC
linkedin.com/posts/markus-rich

www.linkedin.com🇪🇺 Heute in Brüssel: Ein Meilenstein auf dem Weg zu mehr digitaler Souveränität in Europa – gemeinsam mit unseren Partnern aus 🇫🇷 Frankreich, 🇳🇱 den Niederlanden und 🇮🇹 Italien haben wir die… | Markus Richter🇪🇺 Heute in Brüssel: Ein Meilenstein auf dem Weg zu mehr digitaler Souveränität in Europa – gemeinsam mit unseren Partnern aus 🇫🇷 Frankreich, 🇳🇱 den Niederlanden und 🇮🇹 Italien haben wir die Gründungsunterlagen für das neue European Digital Infrastructure Consortium (EDIC) for Digital Commons finalisiert und unterzeichnet. 🤝 Ziel ist es, mit dem DC-EDIC eine starke europäische Struktur zu schaffen, die: • strategische digitale Gemeinschaftsgüter (Open Source, Standards, Dateninfrastrukturen) entwickelt, wartet und skaliert, • den Zugang zu Finanzierung erleichtert, • und eine starke, europäische Community rund um digitale Commons etabliert. 📍Der Sitz des EDIC soll in Paris sein – die Gründung als Organisation durch die EU-Kommission ist nun offiziell beantragt. 🇩🇪 Deutschland engagiert sich über das Bundesministerium für Digitales und Staatsmodernisierung, das Zentrum Digitale Souveränität (ZenDiS) und die Sovereign Tech Agency flankiert durch starke Partnerschaften mit EU-Mitgliedstaaten. 🌍 Das DC-EDIC ist ein europäisches Pionierprojekt im Sinne der Digitalstrategie 2030 – für ein souveränes, offenes und gemeinwohlorientiertes digitales Europa. #DigitalCommons #EDIC #DigitalSovereignty #OpenSource #DigitalEurope #DigitalTransformation #Gemeinwoh #WirMachen | 33 comments on LinkedIn

🌐 Exciting times in Milan at the @NGICommons General Assembly!

We’re meeting in person to sync on project updates, debrief the #NGIForum2025 and plan ahead — including our upcoming NGI Policy Summit on 20 Nov 🗓️. Lots of great energy and collaborative spirit in the room!

Stay tuned as we keep building a people-first internet 💡💬

#NextGenerationInternet #DigitalCommons #OpenTech #NGICommons
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After the Code of Conduct and the Mediation process, the Cooperative Development Guidelines now have a Governance Document that can be used by any Organization/Foundation/Collective/Community/Project that wants to have a governance based on participatory, equity and permacomputing/accessibility principles.

Its time for us to finally start building participatory digital commons, that are developed by the community and for the community and the Governance document is part 1 of doing just that. (Decision making and Structure will follow after this).

I am also excited to announce that @queerspark has also been listed as a collective that adopted pieces of the Cooperative Development Guidelines.

codeberg.org/msavoritias/Coope

Summary card of repository msavoritias/Cooperative_Development_Guidelines
Codeberg.orgCooperative_Development_GuidelinesCooperative_Development_Guidelines

🔹 What could public interest social media look like? 🔹

We explored this question at a workshop hosted by the @Digital Public Goods Alliance at the @Internet Governance Forum (IGF) in Oslo.

Mainstream platforms' algorithms amplify polarization to maximize attention and screen time. In, platforms like ours are built around topics – not personalities.

Big thanks to everyone for the rich exchange @bolajiayodeji @robin (more tags in the comments)!!