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Strypey"The universe of firms could be limited to the largest social media companies, such as Facebook, Google/YouTube, Twitter, and TikTok. Perhaps it could also be extended to other large technology companies, such as Amazon or Apple, or other critical companies in the internet stack."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/NathanielPersily" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NathanielPersily</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/JoshuaATucker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JoshuaATucker</a>, 2021<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-to-fix-social-media-start-with-independent-research/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-to-fix-social-media-start-with-independent-research/</a>(1/2)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

Strypey"Platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are structured around a social graph in which users follow and are followed by other users. In turn, the content we see depends on what’s shared in our network."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ZeveSanderson" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ZeveSanderson</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SolomonMessing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SolomonMessing</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/JoshuaATucker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JoshuaATucker</a>, 2024<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/misunderstood-mechanics-how-ai-tiktok-and-the-liars-dividend-might-affect-the-2024-elections/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/articles/misunderstood-mechanics-how-ai-tiktok-and-the-liars-dividend-might-affect-the-2024-elections/</a>Ugghh, no. This was true of all 3 DataFarms when they first started. But all 3 have been inserting posts into people's feeds from outside their social graph for years.(1/2)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

StrypeyThinking about this some more, the story I tend to tell about moving from the DataFarms to the fediverse is a political-economic one. About who's in control of the social web - and the development of digital tech in general - and who gets to make money from it.(1/?)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/publishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#publishing</a>

StrypeyI'm in two minds about public media outlets like RNZ publishing the video they produce on YouRube;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp4OXwfZE1SaCQ4jRAuaoXQ" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp4OXwfZE1SaCQ4jRAuaoXQ</a>It makes sense for publicly-funded media to publish anywhere that members of the public might be, especially where we don't have to pay. In fact, any media funded 100% with public money ought to be under a CreativeCommons BY-SA license, or even placed in the public domain. So *anyone* can publish it, anywhere they like. (1/2)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/PublicMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PublicMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/WebVideo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebVideo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/RNZ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RNZ</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

Strypey"The legal basis that X asserts in the filing is not terribly interesting. But what is interesting is that X has decided to involve itself at all, and it highlights that you do not own your followers or your account or anything at all on corporate social media."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/JasonKoebler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JasonKoebler</a>, 2024<a href="https://www.404media.co/xs-objection-to-the-onion-buying-infowars-is-a-reminder-you-do-not-own-your-social-media-accounts/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.404media.co/xs-objection-to-the-onion-buying-infowars-is-a-reminder-you-do-not-own-your-social-media-accounts/</a>Governments and other public interest institutions, take note.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/X" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#X</a>

Strypey"Around four billion users use one of Meta’s products every month; that’s half all the humans on earth, or around 75% of all the people in the world aged 15 or older."<a href="https://werd.social/@ben" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ben</a><a href="https://werd.io/2024/the-two-fediverses" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://werd.io/2024/the-two-fediverses</a>Cripes, that's sobering. If Meta decides to stuff something down the memory hole, much of the world won't know about it. ZuckerBorg really is Big Brother.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Meta</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

StrypeySome intriguing coverage of the issues around newsrooms using <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/MOLE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MOLE</a> like ChatGPT; <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018951651/mediawatch-the-good-and-bad-of-ai-in-news-advert-aggravation" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018951651/mediawatch-the-good-and-bad-of-ai-in-news-advert-aggravation</a>One danger that's not discussed is core news media workflows coming to depend on yet another set of remote services offered by DataFarming corporations.(1/2)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/RNZ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RNZ</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Mediawatch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mediawatch</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

Strypey<a href="https://godforsaken.website/@Shrigglepuss" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Shrigglepuss</a> > "it doesn't have to be this way"Of course. We (all of us) are building the fediverse, we can determine everything about it.But precisely because of this, changing things requires finding broad consensus on what to change and how. Nothing changes here by putting pressure on central authorities, as it can on corporate <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>, because there aren't any.So... what do you propose?<a href="https://bne.social/@johngrey" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@johngrey</a>

Strypey"Meta, the global behemoth that owns Facebook and Instagram, is putting a stranglehold on recommendations in user feeds that contain political content.The move, signalled in February, applies to Instagram and Threads, and will eventually extend to Facebook."<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/the-front-page-1/8-april-political-content-mix-1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://omny.fm/shows/the-front-page-1/8-april-political-content-mix-1</a><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#podcasts</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TheFrontPage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheFrontPage</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/NZHerald" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NZHerald</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Meta</a>

Strypey<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> like FarceBook or Xitter are like one-party states. Like the rise of Weibo and WeChat in China, they enhance people's ability to express themselves, but only within the limits set by a single, centralised leadership.The fediverse is more like a multi-party Parliament. People's freedom to express themselves still has limits, but they can choose a leadership (admins and mods) that reflects their values and beliefs.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a>

Strypey<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/CaseyNewton" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CaseyNewton</a> also has some valid criticisms of the generative <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> trend;"... its rise has led to a flood of AI-generated spam that researchers say now outperforms human-written stories in Google search results. The resulting decline in advertising revenue is a key reason that the journalism industry has been devastated by layoffs over the past year."<a href="https://www.platformer.news/taylor-swift-deepfake-nudes-x/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.platformer.news/taylor-swift-deepfake-nudes-x/</a>Of course this is just finishing off a dying ad-funded journalism model decimated by recommendation media <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>.

Strypey"In social media, creators maintain programming power over what gets seen and when. But in recommendation media, the platform is always in control."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/MichaelMignano" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MichaelMignano</a>, 2022<a href="https://scribe.rip/the-end-of-social-media-a88ffed21f86" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://scribe.rip/the-end-of-social-media-a88ffed21f86</a>This distinction between "recommendation media" (ie the <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>) and "social media" (eg the fediverse) is a useful one. But I find it weird that in mid-2022 this guy is praising DataFarming algorithms as a good thing. I suspect this might be an industry puff piece, rather than genuine opinion.

Gary HallAs the countdown to 2024 begins, here's a recap of some of the books <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/openhumanitiespress" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#openhumanitiespress</a> has published in 2023. Beginning with this from January:Data Farms, ed. by Tsvetelina Hristova, Brett Neilson and Ned Rossiter.Like all OHP books, Data Farms is available <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/openaccess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#openaccess</a>:<a href="http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/books/titles/data-farms/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/books/titles/data-farms/</a>What's at stake in naming <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/datacentres" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#datacentres</a> as <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/datafarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#datafarms</a>. These installations are essentially hangars packed with <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/computers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#computers</a>. They congregate <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/servers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#servers</a>, switches and wires that facilitate the storage, processing and transmission of <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/data" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#data</a> in high volumes and at fast speeds. Data centres present a scale of operations, potentially planetary in scope, that intensifies and multiplies the productive and extractive capacities of <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/digitaltechnologies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#digitaltechnologies</a>. The economic advantages to parties with servers in these installations derive not only from opportunities for networking but also from inputs to client machines that may be situated at vast distance. Yet data centres have precise locations...

Strypey"... Google, which recently settled another case over its app store brought by US states. The company is also facing a federal lawsuit over its advertising business and has found itself in the crosshairs in Europe, where it has been fined billions in monopoly cases.The government has asked for 'structural relief' if it wins - which could mean the break-up of the company."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/NatalieSherman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NatalieSherman</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BrandonDrenon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BrandonDrenon</a>, 2023<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66790608" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66790608</a><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/AntiTrust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AntiTrust</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/UD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Google</a>

Strypey"We do not want taxpayers subsidising the work we produce..."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SineadBoucher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SineadBoucher</a> <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018908261/mediawatch-for-24-september-2023" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018908261/mediawatch-for-24-september-2023</a>... they want a handful of transnational corporate DataFarmers to subsidise it instead. Through government-imposed mandates to pay for commercial license on uses like linking and quoting, which don't violate copyright (or they could take legal action on those grounds).(1/2)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/podcasts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#podcasts</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/RNZ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RNZ</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/MediaWatch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaWatch</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/NewsMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewsMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Stuff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Stuff</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

StrypeyThis is kind of intriguing, if a bit rambly. Published in late 2020, it's one average dude's reflections on YouTube, after 5 years of daily vlogging, and a one month break from having anything anything to do with it:<a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PbmBYZ8cBoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PbmBYZ8cBoc</a>I enjoyed the bits where he takes the piss out of the "smash that like button" shtick of professional YouTubers.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/YouTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#YouTube</a>

Strypey"I don't know if anyone is on X [Titter] anymore..."<a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/caucus/story/2018901907/campaigns-rev-into-gear-over-climate-dentalcare-and-cellphones" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/caucus/story/2018901907/campaigns-rev-into-gear-over-climate-dentalcare-and-cellphones</a>This comment from a working journalist speaks volumes. Only a year ago, it was unthinkable for any media professional *not* to be on Titter.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a>

Strypey"Our Twitter Account TheDailyBlogNZ has been locked down after a complaint was made and despite numerous attempts to contact Twitter to resolve it, we are still shut down.It’s ironic because they recently posted their commitment to fair elections…"<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BomberBradbury" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BomberBradbury</a><a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/08/31/mediawatch-twitter-censorship-shuts-down-daily-blog-account-6-weeks-out-from-election/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/08/31/mediawatch-twitter-censorship-shuts-down-daily-blog-account-6-weeks-out-from-election/</a><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/censorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#censorship</a>

StrypeyWow, the <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> are really circling the wagons bigtime. First Titter closing down API access, and then anonymous web access. Then cRedit closing down API access. ThemTube have been wriggling and kicking to stop instances of Invidious and Piped from working. Now they're hammering the devs of youtube-dl:"Access denied... Due to a ruling of the Hamburg Regional Court, access to this website is blocked."<a href="https://yt-dl.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://yt-dl.org/</a>Anyone know any other ways of downloading YT videos?<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/YouTubeDL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#YouTubeDL</a>

Strypey"FaceBook decides which news your see and which news you don't. If FB or InstaGram or WhatsApp kicks you off their platform, it can cost you your artistic career... Or contact with your distant family... Microsoft, AirBnB, Uber, LinkedIn, the largest tech firms structure our lives in myriad ways, without regard to our wellbeing, without fear of competition, and largely without regulation. For now."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/CoryDoctorow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CoryDoctorow</a>, 'The Internet Con', 2023 <a href="https://craphound.com/news/2023/08/01/the-internet-con-how-to-seize-the-means-of-computation-audiobook-outtake/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://craphound.com/news/2023/08/01/the-internet-con-how-to-seize-the-means-of-computation-audiobook-outtake/</a><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/DataFarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DataFarms</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/TechPolicy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TechPolicy</a>

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