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steinbring<p>Transportation: Transit Officials Done With Battery Electric Buses</p><p>From the Article:... <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/milwaukee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>milwaukee</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/milwaukeecounty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>milwaukeecounty</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/mcts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mcts</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/beb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>beb</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/connect1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>connect1</span></a></p><p><a href="https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2024/02/28/transportation-transit-officials-done-with-battery-electric-buses/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">urbanmilwaukee.com/2024/02/28/</span><span class="invisible">transportation-transit-officials-done-with-battery-electric-buses/</span></a></p>
steinbring<p>Transportation: MCTS Still Not Using All Its Electric Buses</p><p>From the Article:... <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/milwaukee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>milwaukee</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/mcts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mcts</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/beb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>beb</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/novabus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>novabus</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/brt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>brt</span></a></p><p><a href="https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2024/02/01/transportation-mcts-still-not-using-all-its-electric-buses/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">urbanmilwaukee.com/2024/02/01/</span><span class="invisible">transportation-mcts-still-not-using-all-its-electric-buses/</span></a></p>
Stephen Repetski<p><a href="https://dmv.community/tags/WMATA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WMATA</span></a> is buying some New Flyers electric buses</p><p>Also:</p><p>Road to zero-emission buses proves challenging for Minnesota transit agencies</p><p><a href="https://www.minnpost.com/environment/2023/12/road-to-zero-emission-buses-proves-challenging-for-minnesota-transit-agencies/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">minnpost.com/environment/2023/</span><span class="invisible">12/road-to-zero-emission-buses-proves-challenging-for-minnesota-transit-agencies/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://dmv.community/tags/BEB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEB</span></a> <a href="https://dmv.community/tags/transit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>transit</span></a></p>
Mackaj<p>An Italian study found the Battery Electric Buses tested have tank-to-wheel (TTW) efficiencies of 137 and 153.80kWh per 100km, while the two hydrogen FCEB models had average efficiencies of 310.24 and 335.75km per 100km respectively. Figures that are between two and 2.45 times lower than the battery buses.</p><p>“Data suggests that driving FCEBs is between 2.12 times to 2.56 times more expensive per km than driving a BEB"</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hydrogen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/fcev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fcev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/fceb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fceb</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/bev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/beb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>beb</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/transport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>transport</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.me.uk/tags/Italy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Italy</span></a><br><a href="https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/real-world-figures-hydrogen-buses-cost-2-3-times-more-to-run-per-km-than-battery-electric-ones-says-italian-study/2-1-1511785" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">hydrogeninsight.com/transport/</span><span class="invisible">real-world-figures-hydrogen-buses-cost-2-3-times-more-to-run-per-km-than-battery-electric-ones-says-italian-study/2-1-1511785</span></a></p>
Hydrogen Economy<p>"3/7<br>•Electric Utility Infrastructure Challenges with battery electric buses:<br>- Grid capacity: entirety of the California electrical grid is undersized and not ready to support a large-scale adoption of ZE vehicles.<br>- Necessary grid upgrades for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BEB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEB</span></a> charging: 4, 5 maybe 7 years!"</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/KeithDPatch/status/1649049406401019912" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">twitter.com/KeithDPatch/status</span><span class="invisible">/1649049406401019912</span></a></p>
Hydrogen Economy<p>"@metrolosangeles<br> 2030 zero emission bus <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ZEB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ZEB</span></a> goal delayed→2035 due to:<br>- Electric Utility Infrastructure Challenges (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/%F0%9D%97%95%F0%9D%97%98%F0%9D%97%95" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>𝗕𝗘𝗕</span></a>)<br>- Battery Electric Bus <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/%F0%9D%97%95%F0%9D%97%98%F0%9D%97%95" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>𝗕𝗘𝗕</span></a> Performance<br>- <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/%F0%9D%97%95%F0%9D%97%98%F0%9D%97%95" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>𝗕𝗘𝗕</span></a> CAPEX &amp; OPEX Cost<br>Only hydrogen fuel cell bus issue: just 2 OEMs produce <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FCEBs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FCEBs</span></a>!"</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Wasserstoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wasserstoff</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hydrogen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreenHydrogen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreenHydrogen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Energiewende" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Energiewende</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EnergyTransition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EnergyTransition</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Brennstoffzelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Brennstoffzelle</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FuelCells</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/elektromobilit%C3%A4t" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>elektromobilität</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ElectricVehicles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElectricVehicles</span></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/KeithDPatch/status/1649049403188219908" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">twitter.com/KeithDPatch/status</span><span class="invisible">/1649049403188219908</span></a></p>
Mike Jelfs<p>These battery electric <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/buses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>buses</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/BEB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEB</span></a> are becoming a common site in <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/Leicester" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Leicester</span></a>.<br>They can carry up to 70 passengers, but what many will not realise even when only carrying 7 passengers they consume less kWh of energy than a battery electric car <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a> carrying 1 person. <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/ClimateCrisis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateCrisis</span></a></p>
Mike Jelfs<p>Thought this might be interesting, how far can you travel on 100kWh of renewable electricity in different vehicles. <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/FCEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FCEV</span></a> (Rasa) <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEV</span></a> Ami, ZSEV, Model 3 and <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/BEB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BEB</span></a> (Bus) E12</p>