@xmpp I'm intrigued and I'll listen in, but just out of curiosity: why PGP, if we already have OMEMO? Sry for the ignorance!!
@clayogra @xmpp @Goffi here are the minutes of the meeting if you are interested: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/OX_Meeting#OpenPGP_for_XMPP_Meeting :)
@jauntywunderkind420 @xmpp @vanitasvitae one use case : with OMEMO (and PFS), you can only get messages from the time since you've joined a conversation. It may be desirable to access all time archives (e.g. in a university, association or enterprise, for the knowledge base). This also applies to non IM use cases (namely Pubsub).
that seems to match close to clayogra's original question:
> I'm intrigued and I'll listen in, but just out of curiosity: why PGP, if we already have OMEMO? Sry for the ignorance!!
still looking for any answers to that.
just to be clear: there is not a "openpgp camp ", it's a complementary method, the aim is not to replace or compete with OMEMO, and there are many OMEMO advocates following OX improvements.
We are doing discussions to have the best possible UX, so your client of choice can do select right options without being annoying for users.
OMEMO will probably stay the main option for most users in IM.
OMEMO for instance does not allow you to keep a server side message archive, while OpenPGP does.
OpenPGP however does not provide forward secrecy.
So it depends on your use-case and there are people that might prefer OpenPGP over OMEMO :)
It's independent of the device. You are able to use the WoT. There may some use cases where OpenPGP without Perfect Forward Secrecy is better.
Keep in mind that XMPP is not only protocol to have a Smartphone chat. There is also IoT. If I don't use a Smartphone and just login on a shared device, I can use my OpenPGP Token.
You work in a company where the communication is encrypted, but the company needs access to the communication,.....
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