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Ubuntu has been a growing pain for me over the last year or so. Mostly due to the baked in third party cicd known as snaps.

Last week marked my return to beloved @debian with a large Docker cluster deployment and the end of Ubuntu rollouts.

It feels good to be back! :)

@vince Debian is just so comfortable. I've distro-hopped a good bit, but I always find myself coming back to Old Reliable.

@chance I ran a fleet of >1200 machines running Debian for at least a decade.

Clients over the past 4/5 years kept landing on Ubuntu in the server realm so being the fan of standardized and predictable deployments, everything became Ubuntu.

Snaps changed everything I've every valued as a sysadmin,now founder of a infrastructure engineering firm. Systems aren't supposed to change underneath you. It's different when it's a browser update...

@chance ... but servers shouldn't have things changing automatically.

Ubuntu's position on the matter was disheartening, but it's very clear messaging. They have no place on a server. That brought me back to Debian.

The migration back to Debian will be phased as 18.04 (the last usable Ubuntu release) machines get upgraded, but all new deployments will be on Old Reliable :)

Thanks @debian for staying true to your purpose, even while I had a short hiatus!

@vince It's unthinkable that snaps would automatically upgrade on their own. That makes them completely incompatible with any enterprise hosting environment, and I have no idea why Ubuntu would go that route when they have a sizeable amount of people using their server release.

I've seen people complain about Debian's "archaic" packages in Stable, but dat sweet, sweet stability is exactly why I love it. I think the most radical change I've seen them make is systemd.

@vince Which, to be fair, pissed a lot of folks off, lol. You want AntiX? That's how you get AntiX. 😁

@vince @debian I installed snapd on my Debian machine :( I really want the cordless program.

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