I'm a little bit confused why #Moxie held the talk the way he did.
Claiming, that open standards like #XMPP and #HTTP are stuck in time and don't evolve (especially on mobile) is just plain wrong. He really should know better.
Also, what is the message? Stop working on cooperative standards and do your own thing? I'm very disappointed that he took on this economists view of the world.
When we develop federated systems, we don't do it because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Also, to circumvent #censorship, domain fronting can also be used with federated systems, adding another layer of protection, instead of depending solely on it.
He also concealed the fact that this is also not an ideal solution, as Google already stopped allowing this (https://signal.org/blog/looking-back-on-the-front/ )
(Also, @matrix is proof that a federated system can remain flexible as well)
On the assumption that you're younger than I am and/or weren't keeping an ear to the ground on IT about ten+ years ago when this character came on the scene, you might want to do a bit of web archaeological research on him.
You'll see why I say he's a charlatan, albeit a successful one.
I've taken a look at your blog and based on that I'll say you are way more skilled and competent than this guy.
If you look at his “exploits”, they're just confidence tricks. Yes, they are system vulnerabilities, but they are not *crypto* vulnerabilities. Just your run of the mill “how can I circumvent this” usual fare.
I'm not going to talk him down because his lack of a technical background, many important people in IT come from other fields, but a cryptographer he's not.
@vanitasvitae He's CEO of Signal Messenger, a centralized system.
@vanitasvitae is that the same moxie, who refused to remove dependency on proprietary google services in signal client, and also refused to accept any modified clients that did so into the main server?
It's a "I, the genuis, know better what's good for you dumb sheeple, so I must control you" mentality.
Already die that in bis old blog post, receiver the same critisism.
@vanitasvitae Moxie consistently disappoints me with this kind of thing.
Just don't know why CCC has invited him. Nothing new and nothing for freedom or privacy at all.
@vanitasvitae, I also missed the point of the talk. The punchline could have been: "We at Signal do it better than you and your decentralized systems". I was very surprised listening to his talk.
You ask why? Their company received millions of USD from the WA founders and from Microsoft. Making money with federated systems based on open standards is just too hard!
If you want to develop a federated system anyway, at least try to not build on an open standard. Better have a single company, that develops and controls their own "standard". Better for making money!
Disclaimer: Any resemblance to real IM protocols is purely coincidental.
@debacle @vanitasvitae Those are my thoughts as well... Open standards like #XMPP or #HTTP do evolve but they evolve slowly. Furthermore, the #XMPP ecosystem evolves in all directions all the time, so it's impossible to see that one particular change that pushes the whole ecosystem. In a closed system, you change your unfederated server and you're done with the change but only you are rewarded by that and not the whole ecosystem.
Because the guy is a selfish narcissistic psycho and an utter dick who cares about nothing apart from himself and his wallet.
He knows how to play the press, though.
It's as simple as that. The guy is a complete fake.
PS: No, I haven't got a great deal of sympathy for him, as you might surmise.
@vanitasvitae for those who want to watch
@vanitasvitae seems like it.
To be frank I use signal and find it easier to onboard my family and friends on to it.
@vanitasvitae Boom. Found it. Watched it just now.
My first observation was that he talks a lot about what his product isn't, but he has some good and interesting points. I see it as intellectual honesty, aware of this moving landscape he sees and shows up in Germany to address and answer questions.
This bit on censorship resistance was interesting, because it shows an animation of what a government shutdown could mean for Mastodon:
Fosstodon is an English speaking Mastodon instance that is open to anyone who is interested in technology; particularly free & open source software.