This is the ideal laptop pointing device. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like:


> This is the ideal laptop pointing device. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like: [image of of a ThinkPad TrackPoint]

You know, I use a ThinkPad every day without an external mouse, but basically never use that thing. What do you like about it?

Maybe I should give it another try – it is much closer to the home row.

Related: I'm never sure quite what to call it but clearly am not alone in that:

@codesections I really like it because its right on the home row. I don't have to keep changing position when typing/browsing. It was pretty awkward at first.. but the more I used it the faster I could get it to get where I want it. There was a learning curve, at least for me. The bonus of easily scrolling side to side as well as up and down is really nice.

@codesections I've been wanting to build my own mechanical keyboard for a time now, and mostly know what size and what hardware to use. I'm 100% going to incorporate a trackpoint into my build. Absolutely.

@codesections Don't get me wrong, there are situations when an external traditional mouse is more ideal. But the situations for when the trackpoint is advantageous for me, are enough to warrant the effort to include one.

@Truck @unicornfarts

> It is a Poin-Ted Stick. It is the best pointing device.

I had forgotten about the toot you were replying to (coming up on it's one-year birthday – they grow up so fast…) and first read this to be a TED Talk joke, somehow.

@codesections It's more about there being 0 (or maybe -8) things to like about touchpads (any touchpads, but esp. Apple ones).


@emacsomancer @codesections there was exactly one touch pad I liked: it was on a Compaq circa 2008. Never since.

@codesections @unicornfarts I was ignoring it until the (already awful) touchpad on my dell went bust and I had to invest in the learning curve. My next laptop didn't have a touchpad, only a clit.

It's still not a mouse but you can do graphics work with it, unlike touchpads. Apple ones come close though.

@unicornfarts Pretty good, but I think there's one thing better.

Of course, they're a lot more expensive for LCD screens, but I think it's worth it. It's almost a Wii remote.

I really love them on lenovo, but hp don't do them as well unfortunetly

Not realøy, avragr at vest, but i gottwn all mine for free, so i supose thats good

but HP at least managed to make them a button too… that's something I miss dearly on lenovos

@drazraeltod @Twelve I can set up my thinkpads trackpoint as a button. I tried using it for a while with that enabled, but I preferred the dedicated buttons instead and disabled that feature.

I had a laptop long ago that had one of these, before touch pads were around. I got pretty good at using it. But I still prefer a track balls or mouse myself. But I can completely understand why a person would like one on the keyboard.
But to be honest, I have gotten a bit lazy over time and somewhere along the line, didn't continue to use keyboard shortcuts as much, perhaps because of software changes and OS changes over the years.

@unicornfarts Oh noooo. The ideal pointing device is a mouse, to me. But if we're talking about laptops, it's the touchpad from a Macbook. I have never found something so comfortable or precise as that.

On my Thinkpad, the nipple is kinda weird. When it works, it's good. But sometimes I'm slowly scrolling with it and then it goes super fast. Or sometimes I push up, take my finger off it, and the cursor keeps going up forever, for like 20 seconds. But it's a nice idea.

@unicornfarts Soft Dome trackpoint caps may be better than touchpads, but they are not ideal. Have you ever tried the Soft Rim trackpoint caps?

@unicornfarts They're the best, sadly lenovo stopped producing soft rim caps for newer thinkpads, so If you have a modern device you need 3d printed ones.

@unicornfarts Sadly, I don't have a Thinkpad. But when I used to use one, I was always quite impressed how well the Trackpoint could be used in basically any situation, even in a car. This was far more annoying with other laptop pointing devices

@waweic exactly! It is especially useful out in the field and in precarious places, or on the move. The track point performs well in situations that touch pads just don't. Or with wet fingers. Don't ask.

@SuperDicq someday... I'll also achieve nirvana as you have. Someday. Lol

@unicornfarts my grandfather was going to give me a thinkpad when i was 13 but i got a virgin dell latitude D800 (?) instead

the same paper surfaced "clit mouse" was peak performance, not these rubber nibbles.


I beg to point out that some of us have shaky index fingers...making this pressure sensitive button less than idea.

@unicornfarts Oh and I really like the dynabook ones that intel/toshiba have been putting together.

@unicornfarts in terms of portable devices its unrivaled, which is why i really don’t understand all these new portables doing mouse control with tiny little trackpads or nubs that for some reason are at the bottom of the keyboard almost completely negating the benefits (i.e. the gpd pocket) (however the gpd method of mapping the analog stick is practically the same and the correct approach for their game focused portables)

lenovo recently released a thinkpad without the trackpoint (the x1 fold), so the end times are near i think. but maybe thats a good thing, some other company may actually try to fill the void lenovo refuses to fill

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