messenger, while operating from Switzerland, is now owned by a US holdings company. They also quietly updated their privacy policy to some very vague language. got a response from Wire's CEO after questioning them about the news and it didn't inspire much confidence. As a result, is no longer recommending the Wire platform on their website.

@unicornfarts ...while you recommend Signal,a US based Whatsapp-clone shit with funding by Whatsapp founders with servers at Amazon and Google as the top alternative.They even have a proprietary tracker at their website.How can all fucking alternative list be so stupid and ignorant?!Wire may not be perfect but at least thousand times better than THAT fucking piece of shit.

@nipos First of all, I don't recall ever endorsing Signal. Secondly, take a seat before you hurt yourself. 🤫

@unicornfarts I was referring to this page: .If you are responsible for Privacytools (at least your post make me think that),then you're responsible for this page,too.It's really annoying to find that shit on every page whch complains about Wire.Wire also has some problems but not that many.

@nipos I am not affiliated with

That being said, I have used Wire however and I liked the app. It worked very well for me. I am only bringing attention to news that may concern people who have an extreme need for privacy. protesters in oppressive regimes or whistle-blowers for example. 🙂

@unicornfarts Ok,sorry,then I got that wrong.Anyway,those people who are responsible for it should really think about the facts again...I read such negative posts about Wire so often while the same people always recommend alternatives which are even worse 🙄

@nipos @unicornfarts
The reason they desisted Wire is not because of US ownership. It's because loss of trust, since Wire wasn't opened to private customers during all these changes. If you are ok with that, feel free to use it. For me, it is still better than Signal or Kebayse or any other service

@unicornfarts I used to use wire, but luckily due to certain circumstances, I removed it and switched over to Matrix.

But the switch is suspicious, especially when there's no transparency about it.

Well... There were people out there who told me i should use wire instead of Signal... 🤷‍♂️

@fuyuhikodate Same here. That's part of the problem with centralized services. We have no recourse if a policy change is made that we don't agree with except to stop using said service, or fork or own version if that's a possibility.

Well my next project would be making a own Matrix Server and test it with my family ^^

@fuyuhikodate I'd be interested in hearing what you think of matrix when you've got it up and running!

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