He just said Framagit (community-driven GitLab instance) is closing and are you saying Gitea is better than GitLab in general because it's community-driven?
Gitea and GitLab have different target userbase but GitLab has a business model to sustain the development and gitlab.com service. It would be better if Gitea had a business model too.
We heavily disagree. Software does not need a business model to be a good alternative. Gitea is actively maintained and developed while not being influenced by the interests of big companies. This is why we chose to build Codeberg upon Gitea.
The developers are volunteers, sometimes paid via donations and some of them might also work for Gitea hosting companies, but the mixture creates a balance and makes sure that no features are made premium-only.
@alexl @tychosoft @mike keep in mind the most important infrastructure projects that keep the internet together, email servers, networking and compression library and code development, the linux kernel, or open content and knowledge like wikipedia, even security certifcate authorities like letsencrypt, are pretty much without exception community-run, not for profit
Regarding the Linux Foundation bylaws, please refer to:
"THE LINUX FOUNDATION
(an Oregon nonprofit mutual benefit corporation)
on https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/ (that shares many aspects with Codeberg's bylaws btw, naturally;)
Welcome to https://codeberg.org !
I prefer GitLab, thank you, not hiding economic interests behind a non-profit consortium and more reliable than a volunteer project, while still developing a superb *FOSS self-hostable* product used by KDE, GNOME, Opendesktop, CERN and NASA.
I bet that now that Phabricator is no longer supported also Wikimedia will switch to GitLab and not to Gitea.
GitLab a big company? 😂
We have a very different definition of big company and #GitLab folks happily moved some features from GitLab EE to GitLab CE that KDE needed for its self-hosted infrastructure. And compared to other projects the CE had already a lot of features and EE doesn't add much.
Here on the Fediverse everyone is about "don't discriminate for this or that" but here you are clearly discriminating a project because there is company behind it 😉
@alexl >1300 paid employees vs a handful of gitea volunteers sounds ... big, and ... commercial? Not? Let's not fight, we really believe that not-for-profit has historically proven to be much more reliant than commercial enterprises, looking back in history compare any charity like the Red Cross to their commercial counterparts. Of course we need funding, yes! And it makes a difference to empower volunteers, donators, and members! That's our mission we believe in!
In the case of GitLab the project won't die with the company because GitLab CE, where 90%+ of the features are, is FOSS and can be sustained by community efforts then.
Companies, volunteering and donations are not mutually exclusive, just think about companies like GitLab as members of the community organized in a better way, if they fail, we are back to volunteering and donations.
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