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@tio @aral

I don't believe this is true.

We are heterotrophs and need to consume other life to survive. However, that doesn't mean we must consume more than what nature can regenerate. There are hundreds of millions of people living in harmony with nature, doing good things, right now.

In fact, we can also feed 10 billion people sustainably:

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-feed-10-billion-people

The problem ofc is that our societies, especially in the Global North, actively prevent this.

Let's change them.

@tio @aral

I probably misunderstood, but replied to this:

"no one can live on this planet without trading.... you can't be a good human being, do good thing, and survive."

which I understand to argue that no one on the planet can be a good human being and survive at the same time?

There are both (indigenous) people living directly off the land, and people within societies consuming very little, but still enough to not only survive but also have a good life.

So "no one" is not true.

@aral @ttiurani I see. Sure I should have said that pretty much no one. The people you are talking about are a very tiny minority. What I mean is that being a good human being is not enough in our "modern" society. There are no programs in place to help people have a life. Like the declaration of Human Rights says “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”

I spent the last 15 years of my life creating a lot of "things", from books to documentaries or online free services for everyone. All scientific and educational. And I never traded them. Meaning I made no profit. I want to do good things and help people, get myself informed about how the world works, etc.. And I cannot survive in this world unless random people from around the globe support me financially. And that's a core issue within our global society, that people cannot have a life without being forced to do something in return or engage into this trade society.