Random rant about bathroom devices 

My scales in the bathroom broke and I was looking for new ones just now. It was rather hard to find one without bluetooth and apps. To my surprise even toothbrushes now seem to be bluetooth enabled...

I mean, why? What benefit would this possibly have???

What's wrong with us??

Random rant about bathroom devices 

@thewk I take the other side. The more self diagnostics we can gather, the better we can find personal treatments. Get away from one-pill-fits-all approach to healthcare.

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@tomosaigon @thewk I'd way rather have something like that on paper instead of somewhere it can be sucked up by someone, and be used against me.

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@sotolf @thewk It's a balance between that and convenience/utility. Hard to use a bunch of numbers only printed on paper.

Maybe more ubiquitous encryption should be part of the discussion.

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@tomosaigon @thewk

>Hard to use a bunch of numbers only printed on paper.

How is that hard? Iv'e been doing it for years.

and Encryption is hard because when it comes to so many parts of consumer stuff you can almost never trust it.

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@tomosaigon I agree with you on the part of having that kind of data is crucial, actually why I am getting a new scale.

But I am on the side @sotolf, my medical data should not be on a smartphone or something like that so it can be used to point me to some diet-pills ;-)

Also, not seeing the point of gathering data from a toothbrush at all.
I mean, what is gathered there at all?

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@thewk @tomosaigon probably duration and times that you brush your teeth, maybe also the pressure that you used while brushing. It's hard to tell, which is another thing I don't like with that kind of data collection, it's not clear what gets gathered, and even when they do have some kind of thing listed you can't be sure without actually intercepting and seeing what really is getting shared.

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@sotolf
Seems plausible that that would be gathered. But I still don't see the point there from my personal side.
Knowing the duration and preassure I brush my teeth at won't make much of a difference. Either they are clean and have been up until now, or the dentist would already have notified me by the use of a drill....
So my brushing seems to be ok, no additional data needed ;-)

@tomosaigon

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@thewk @sotolf It may be useful to know how much time is spent brushing each corner/angle/row, and in which direction. But I am not a dentist.

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@tomosaigon @thewk Yeah, I don't talk against that at all, but I don't want that data to be easily exfiltrated from the place, I'd be okay if I had to physically connect to the toothbrush to be able to get to the data, it's kind of the same reason I don't want any Amazon Echo/Siri/hey google device nearby, it makes me very very weary.

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@sotolf @tomosaigon @thewk the two devices I got which happened to have some kind of app for them, in both cases the app was so ridiculously rubbish at even running and couldn't connect to the devices, it seems they're more marketing gimmicks than anything either useful or dangerous.

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@sotolf @tomosaigon @thewk the real question should be: why are people using automatic soap dispensers that dispense exactly three times the soap I need to wash my hands thoroughly?

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@jens

Also a very good question

@sotolf @tomosaigon

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@thewk

Our friends love them, and complain that their kids never rinse their hands well enough, so get cracked red skin. The solution, IMHO, would be simple, but apparently it's not.

@sotolf @tomosaigon

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