I think nihilism got an undeserved bad rep, yeah ultimately life is meaningless and nothing has value, but then we put value to the things that are important to us, to those who are important to us, which is what I think most people are doing anyway.
@sotolf I really love this view. I sounds more like it gives us the freedom to choose what's important to us 💯
@asym Yeah, that's one of the good things, the other is since life is ultimately meaningless, it means that no matter how hard you screw up, there is always a way back, you won't break the world :) The universe doesn't care about you, which is why it isn't against you. Well I don't know, it helps me when I feel like I've screwed up everything at least :) And yeah if I did believe in free will we could choose what's important to us :p
@sotolf personally I'm also of the view that freewill doesn't exist (should've put "freedom" in quotes 😝). But yea this is really sticking with me. I tend to put more and more pressure on myself and struggle to relax and enjoy the moment. This seems like such a good way to be more chilled out because in the end (as you're saying) it's all for no larger purpose 👌
@sotolf Once you understand and get used to the nihilistic nature of the universe, you realize that it means more possibilities than there otherwise would be, and to me, it leads to existentialism. We create our own meaning, we are in big part responsible for our outlook on our life and the world.
@sotolf Wait. I thought it was no longer nihilism if you inserted value into things that didn't matter in themselves.
@hurtado Nihlism basically just says that things doesn't have intrinsic value :) So gold for example, unless we give it a value it's just a metal. A piece of wood has no value in and of itself, but for a child it can be a sword, a magic wand or a small friend. that's what I understand nihilsm to be at least :)
@sotolf Yeah, but like if you assign your own meaning and values to things/people and become responsible for them, isn't that Existentialism? It kind of reaches Absurdism as well, where you accept the inherent meaninglessness/purposelessness of the world and, instead of ending your life, you assign playful meanings.
@hurtado I guess so, in some way, but I like living, I find value in the things around me, and I know people find value in me as well, and I don't see things not having an intrinsic value makes them worthless, sure most people in the world woudln't care about my dog, but I love him, just like that it's valuable, and I don't really think it necessarily leads to having such a fatalistic view on things.
@kambing problem is I'm still a milennial I think, I never understood how that generation thing works
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