So now you can invest in . Buy non-voting shares. If you invest a minimum of $1000 you get a rather large bonus... I don't know about you, but sounds like a decent investment... though a little risky.

What's risk anyway?

@poetgrant you mean invest or buy stock?
I've heard these are 2 very different things, but I don't exactly know how...

@Wolf480pl you would be purchasing stock in the company. Non-voting, so it is a limited stock option. They also don't mention dividends, so it would be a long term investment without immediate payout.

@poetgrant You seem to be talking like buying stock is a special case of investing... but I've heard some people say that buying stock does not always mean investing... I'm confused now.

@Wolf480pl stock is always investing, but it isn't always effective if you buy a stock then sell it a week later. The best investment would actually be a stock that pays dividends because then you could judge the actual growth of the company's capital more effectively. Also you would make money that you could reinvest in the company if you so choose.

@poetgrant hm, ok, but if someone speculates on a stock, does that really count as investing in the company?

@Wolf480pl I don't think so... I mean... I guess technically that company has a little capital for a short time, but in my book speculation tends to be a very bad idea.

@poetgrant well, IMO speculation is a harmful phenomenon, and it's not something I'd want to participate in.

I'm just trying to figure out the semantics here, whether eg. investing in a company also means trying to help that company become worth more, etc.


@Wolf480pl I think it is good... but only if you're in it for the long term. Hopefully they decide to start paying dividends because that will help encourage long term investments.

To be clear, I think speculation is really bad from an investment standpoint. That goes for the investor and the investee

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