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Reading about a current submission contest for artwork in Open Source land and remember, yet again - why you never ever ever do that.

Nothing, absolutely NOTHING good comes from it. It doesn't improve community relations, it never creates new contributors in the long run and at the very least you'll get people disappointed and some times toxic as well.

What it does do is prove over and over that "Criticism" is a skill, and a skill seldomly possessed by computer enthusiasts.

Not saying its done out of bad motives - just that it doesn't work.

The downside with programming is morons like me comes along going "well you should have added this simple [is actually insanely complex] thing into it!" with a smug tone of voice.
The downside with design and artwork is that people think their opinion is relevant beyond personal preference because they have eyes and can discern color.

In both scenarios it often come with a side of "just telling the truth! Get thicker skin!"

@ohyran 🤗 we're just doing our best out here. This is a good reminder to lead with empathy.

@chuck
Always! Empathy and Humanity first, the rest will sort itself out.
To quote Terry Pratchett: "problems begin when you start to treat humans like things"

@ohyran
Design is particularly tricky I agree. A project I keep tabs on was asking for opinions on some new logo designs. But it was just a bunch of forum randos responding. Probably none of which have any background in design so what good is that feedback?

@kelbot See feedback I get, even if you know that the majority is bad/useless.
The best is when randos go INTO it, and goes "what if this?" or "I added this change badly in Gimp?" and get invited into the work. Thats golden - because it means that yes its gonna be trickier to get done on time but that that person will be "one of the team" and find something brilliant to contribute to, even if its not design.

But I dont envy the programmers though... uy "Add this feature NAOW!" :)

@ohyran One of the things that gets me is that the last few times I have seen these contests the qualitfications changed halfway through. Like, what gives?

As for the rest, I've come to the realization that if someone wants to give art critique, it's best to force them to do a paintover, because most people just can't talk about images in a textual way clearly. Paintovers always force them to think through their issues and always nets some usable feedback.

@ohyran I used to be a web developer. I felt both of these. It’s honestly why I left. Fixing broken computers is much less irritating.

@ohyran Nothing like abusive behavior masquerading as "Criticism"

@alatiera yeah I was like inches from replying to one with "Well from what you've written I think you're a boy stuck in a mans body because you've never been able to find a safe spot in this world and yourself and therefor you lash out thinking its helping your social position. You think the fault is the worlds that you don't get what you THINK other male crap rolemodels get so behave like a spoiled child - just saying it like it is!"

Then realize that would be being a bad person too. :/

@alatiera SHIT! Not to YOU! But to one of the forum posts.... o.O

@alatiera (Just read what I'd writte to you and it sounded like I was slagging you off... dear christ that was embarressing... errrr ok sry... will buy you cake if we're ever in the same town <3 )

@ohyran LOL, no worried. I never interpreted like that :P

If anything I was cheering for you being like "Yea, go and tell it to them like it is." :D

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