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In my club, there's one person on the board who's responsible to create and maintain routes for the weekly rides and the cycling trips. AFAIK she's the only one doing it, as nobody else wants the job. She's been doing it for 8 years. She was training a replacement this year, but I heard this person resigned.

I've been thinking about offering my help... Might be an opportunity to steer them toward tools. They're using RideWithGPS and the usual big corp services.

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I've had a look at FacilMap.org for privacy-friendly collaborative map and route editing. It's pretty nice!

But I kid you not, with the average age of members being pretty high (a majority are enjoying retirement), some are still printing cue sheets for routes. On dead trees. 🤦‍♀️

FacilMap is supposedly able to export a route to a table, but I haven't managed to make it work.

A web service that generates cuesheets is maps.openrouteservice.org.

Do you know of any other?

@normandc @mastobikes checkout cycle.travel

It's based on Open Street Map with cool traffic data stuff on top

dynamic.watch/ is great little tool (though it is not free). It uses multiple different OpenStreetMap renderings, local maps from governments and multiple choices for routing tools (including Graphhopper which I prefer) @kawaiipunk @normandc @mastobikes

@gustav @kawaiipunk @mastobikes thanks, but that's not what I'm looking for. It's not for myself, but for a cycling club. Most club members don't own a GPS computer. Many struggle with a smartphone. And I want to stress again that I'm looking for free and open source software (FOSS). Looking for an online route planner with GPX and cuesheet export, embedded map feature a plus. Basically a RideWithGPS.com replacement. I've mentioned two; bikerouter.de is my fav, but doesn't do cuesheets.

@kawaiipunk @mastobikes thanks, it looks interesting. Unfortunately, while it's free, it does not appear to be FOSS. Basically, I'd want to be able to set up my own web instance if I needed. Still, this is worth looking into!

@kawaiipunk @normandc @mastobikes

uh, that looks great. i planned a 90km route in about 10 seconds. offered route is different from the ones i cycled before, but looks interesting. i'm going to test that route in the wild.

@kawaiipunk @normandc @mastobikes

I'm pretty happy with maps.openrouteservice.org - I'm more using it for hiking planning but they alao have cycling options

@jambamkin @heiglandreas @kawaiipunk @mastobikes It's been mentioned more than once in this thread (admittedly Mastodon does not make it easy to see all replies). Also, my original request was for a routing service that also produces a printable cue sheet (turn-by-turn directions), which Brouter doesn't support.

@normandc Bikerouter for example
github.com/abrensch/brouter
There is a Instance with nice routing profiles brouter.m11n.de
To be honest i don't know how good it's translated

For presenting tracks there is github.com/umap-project/umap which seems to be very nice

@normandc @mastobikes

#FacilMap can export the route as #GPX but you'd need another utility , like #cuerator, to convert them to printable cue sheets: thomer.com/cuerator

#Cuerator can accept GPX or KML inputs.

@GOwin @mastobikes Cuerator is an interesting find! But it seems English-only, we're French speaking (around here not many people are fluent in English). Thanks anyway. (I already mentioned FacilMap in my first toot)

@normandc @mastobikes Being the change you want to see is the best way to get there.

@normandc I'm not sure if organicmaps.app fits the bill but a cursory look indicates it could

@trregeagle @mastobikes thanks for the suggestion, but no, it doesn't. I wrote that I'm looking for an online planner for a club, not an app everybody would have to install on their phones - assuming everybody has a phone (not the case), and Android to boot.

@trregeagle @mastobikes Just checked and Organic Maps does have an iOS version. Seems like track import does not support GPX, I'm unfamiliar with the supported formats. As for myself, I use a Linux phone...

In any case, the need is for a single person to plan group rides, then provide a GPS track to be uploaded to GPS devices or phones, alternatively provide a cue sheet to be printed on actual paper. Some members seem averse to technology. ;-)

@rdfhrn @mastobikes Already mentioned a few times, I use it for my own. But it does not generate cuesheets, AKA turn-by-turn directions.

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