@Matter Lmao don't be offended, I'm not defensive just arguing vigorously you could say lmao, it's hard to tell tone online. I just think it's wrong to argue that PeerTube is more 'viable' than NodeTube, maybe we have different definitions but considering NodeTube has a popular/profitable instance I would say by definition it's more viable. Anyways thanks for the conversation cheers, we all share the same goal anyways of making the web better so I have nothing against PT personally

@Matter Does it bother you at all that it's trivial to see the other IPs watching a video with WebTorrent? Isn't that a privacy concern, and shouldn't alt-tech prioritize privacy as a fundamental rule?

@Matter But WebTorrent adds a lot of complexity, and for what? You state yourself that you're not even entirely sure if it's ever even been used lmao. Like I'm sure it has but it adds a lot of complexity and it's not very useful (a theme with PeerTube). Also I don't like that anyone can read the wire of WebTorrent and see the public IPs of people viewing the video, that is insane to me. nginx serves files just fine. I've had plenty of viral videos on NewTube, next to zero bandwidth issues

@Matter Well you say NodeTube isn't viable, but show me the healthy PeerTube instance that is an actual viable site. NewTube.app does 500k media impressions a month and I run the site profitably, is that a living demonstration of its 'viability'? If something is going super viral I have 'viralServer' functionality built in where I can throw it on a high bandwidth VPS and serve it from there, problem solved, with secure viewing/none of the complexity of WebTorrent.

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@Matter I have a question though, what is the biggest PeerTube instance? That does the most traffic? I mean I can do 30TB/month on a $20/month server, bandwidth isn't really that tough. I could implement WebTorrent (and ActivityPub) if I wanted but personally I don't want WebTorrent because it adds complexity and, catastrophically, it's not a secure viewing experience since your IP is publicly viewable.

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@nodetube Some reasons NodeTube is not a viable alternative to PeerTube to me:

No federation: I'm not making an account for each server (and there should be many servers, of course), with PeerTube I can comment with an existing Mastodon account.

Not scalable to a lot of concurrent viewers: you're limited to the upload bandwidth of the server. PeerTube gets faster when more people watch the video, NodeTube breaks.

Some minor bad points: you promote Discord, reCaptcha, Heroku.

@x Thanks for the donation btw appreciate it!

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@nodetube This is not to say I don't like what you're doing. I think your considerable talent would be better spent at helping on PeerTube, but maybe it's good to have some options available for ethical video hosting.

@Matter I have a question though, what is the biggest PeerTube instance? That does the most traffic? I mean I can do 30TB/month on a $20/month server, bandwidth isn't really that tough. I could implement WebTorrent (and ActivityPub) if I wanted but personally I don't want WebTorrent because it adds complexity and, catastrophically, it's not a secure viewing experience since your IP is publicly viewable.

@agustinh88 I like how Lbry does their links, that's cool that they let you pick a vanity url. Sadly when I skipped forward a bit in the video it hung for a long time 😔

My thoughts on PeerTube:
I personally don't like the user experience. And I'm not really sure what problem it's trying to solve, it seems to me to be more of like a coding experiment than say NodeTube which is created to allow easy transmission of information. But personally I don't like the feel of it but technically it's quite well put together, I tried an upload and from a technical level it's quite advanced, I didn't really like it much though I prefer NodeTube's user experience by far

@robh Lol I'm the developer of the site. There are keyboard controls for the player, it just has to be in focus.

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@nodetube I do, but of course it's all about critical mass! If you're connected with any of the developers/development, how about some keyboard controls for back/forward/pause/playback speed :)

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The video youtube deleted from Dr Scott Atlas / Hoover Institution.

newtube.app/user/anthony/OhF2g

Newtube looks worth checking out as another good youtube alternative.

@nodetube

#newtube #bigtechcensorship

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