I installed Debian and it feels like I tried to install Windows 10 on a computer from 2006. Anything involving graphics in GNOME (like animations) are just like "lol nah"
So I try to get the proprietary NVidia drivers (the FIRST thing I try to install) and... "you have held broken packages"
...are Debian and derivatives just unviable for desktop use? apt is quite possibly the worst piece of popular Linux software I've used
@njha Debian being a bit more hardcore about the free software is probably tougher to get the proprietary Nvidia drivers up and running(but works great with AMD or Intel from my experience). Other Debian based distros like Ubuntu and Mint would probably work much better with NVidia.
@bsharitt I normally use noveau anyway (which is what I assume is there by default). However, on Debian everything is completely broken...
- typing into firefox repeats keys
- the mouse lags
- animations lag
- doing anything makes the fans spin up (??)
- plymouth crashes on boot
So I was thinking maybe it's a graphics issue and tried to install NVidia drivers... but of course that didn't work either.
Completely stock Debian install btw, nothing fancy.
@njha kind of surprising, Debian normally just works. Though I don't use graphical install. And ofcourse I install stable then alter my repos to track unstable.
@jordan31 graphical install yes, but the only repo change I made was enabling nonfree
and even before enabling nonfree, everything was broken (which is what made me want to enable nonfree)
@njha unpopular opinion - apt is probably the best thing in Debian. Probably in Linux. Probably it has inspired all the *app stores* we have to date.
So, it's probably you ;)
@njha Linux Mint handles that situation. Install with 3rd party software sources enabled. Go into Driver Manager and available NVidia drivers are listed. Select your preference and it's installed. No fuss.
@njha if you plan to use propietary graphic drivers, you should use ubuntu, Debian is a "more-free-focused" distro.
@nitox Thanks. I don't really want the proprietary drivers though, it was just a debugging step to see if Noveau was the thing that was broken on Debian.
Sorry to nitpick, but you've mispelled it twice in this thread. It's nouveau, not noveau. Nouveau is a French word and means "new". No idea why they chose it to name a free nvidia driver.
I must be computer illeterate, I've managed to hose my Debian installs in short order the 2-3 times I tried. 🙄 Never an issue with Ubuntu. Been using nouveau for the past few years without a hitch, but my PC is 7-year old.
@Lucky Hey, just as a debugging step to see if nouveau was the issue. Turns out it was, and I managed to fix nouveau later and am currently using Debian. :)
@Lucky It manifested as really bad performance, which could have been a lot of things.
In the end I did need nonfree software to make nouveau work (the nvidia firmware) anyway. So you still need nonfree software to use an NVidia GPU.
@Lucky thanks though
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