In case you're wondering what kind of spam #FDroid is receiving, here's one fresh from our junk folder. πŸ˜…

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@fdroidorg Note, when you use the Unicode math characters to create "italic" text, it will not be readable to screen readers, as they do not know it's regular text. Your "italic" portion in the post above is read by VoiceOver as "dot h h h".

I've written a blog post about this with some info: blog.nytsoi.net/2019/12/12/alt

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@nicd @fdroidorg when that arguments is brought up I always thinks that screen readers should step up their game πŸ˜”

@pitbuster @fdroidorg It's a problem for screen readers because those are special characters for math and other similar uses. There is no correct way to read them out of their assigned use case.

@nicd @pitbuster We of course apologize to everyone who wasn't able to read previous quote. We'll try to refrain from creative use of unicode from now on.

@pitbuster Yeah they should. And so ... whose problem does that make it?
Governments should step up their game, too! So many traffic lights do not have any sounds, so many buildings are not wheelchair-accessible, so many public events rely on people to be able to hear the speakers. Gosh, I do hope that changes very soon!
But it's not going to, is it?
So we can do the best we can to help out each other (only when *asked to*, that is). Educators, guides, interpreters, good friends, kind strangers. Because it is human to support each other, is it not? Does that change on the internet, just because not using those fancy symbols would be inconvenient?
We can open Github issues for NVDA. We can contact Apple support. But while we wait for overworked volunteers or big corporations to solve this, perhaps we all can step up our game, too?
@nicd @fdroidorg

@Mayana @pitbuster @nicd

my favourite solution is β€œhave a different posting medium than mastodon that allows formatting such as italics and aria descriptions”

mine isn’t finished or connected to activitypub yet,
but it’s enough for me to know I can just post my more complicated posts on that someday

#bopwiki

@pitbuster It's not an argument, it's a fact. Screenreaders handle such text badly. Removing it would take nothing from the visual experience here; the quote could have been rendered in plain text.

Charitably, perhaps you're trying to optimize responsibility for a solution and you might be right but doing so implies it's not worth anyone doing anything until that solely responsible software maker does. We all can play a part here. @nicd @fdroidorg

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