You know, I think about data protection and all that. I think about privacy. I hear everyone blame the companies for all their privacy woes and all I hear is whining. I have whined about it too I guess. Google never lied about their intentions. They were very upfront with how you paid for their awesome and free products. I feel like FAANG shouldn't be apologizing or taking responsibility. The user gave up responsibility willingly and it is up to the user to take back responsibility.

@poetgrant That's true to a certain extent, if you're actually using their products, but several of the members also track and maintain extensive data about you even when you don't use their product. That is not because the user chose to use those services, but because site owners the users visits (invisibly) chose to use particular services. This tracking has become so extensive it's difficult to fully extricate yourself.

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That is why I tend to see websites similarly to people's homes. It is their home and you enter at your own risk. The issue with tracking that I do have is that it follows you, but if you are being tracked and data collected about you in someone's home, maybe you shouldn't visit their home.

@poetgrant How much of the Internet becomes unavailable in that scenario? And how are you to know which sites allow for tracking without being tracked? See, I don't have an issue with someone deciding to sell their privacy for a service. If they choose to do that and it's understood what they're doing, that's their call. My concern is when these companies are invisibly tracking user movements without their consent or knowledge, even when those users aren't using that company's services.

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@mike @poetgrant I feel that most people are aware that they are being tracked for a profit but don’t understand why this is a big enough issue to hop over 3 walls and a pit to get away from.

Personally my issue is when these companies push their services as a public services like roads in real life ex twitter where if the only way to view the President’s microblog is through a capitalistic company that has no actually interest in protecting me.

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