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Discussion for those interested. If you are a Fedora user, you may want to read it and express your thoughts there. To be clear, I am saying that regardless of whether or not you even agree with me. I'm not looking for an echo chamber.
@JoshStrobl My response: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320/378
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Aral you're too virulent for the community apparently 
What was your response btw ?
I still 
my Debian 
@hyde @JoshStrobl See replies :) (Was manually copy/pasting on my phone so took ages.) :)
@aral @JoshStrobl I just saw it :) thanks ... And what's fucking wrong with people ?!
@JoshStrobl Wait .. what ? @kev and @mike you blocked @aral ?
@hyde No, his account has never been blocked.
@mike @JoshStrobl @kev @aral yeah, we heard it was silenced ...
@hyde Limited, which doesn't really silence an account. Anybody can still follow it. It just gives them a warning first and posts don't show up in public timelines. Since he's a remote user, that would only have been the federated timeline anyway. His posts still would have shown up in the Home feeds of any followers he had on Fosstodon.
@mike @hyde @kev @aral I mean, if the person is trying to respond to something I'm saying and I don't have them blocked or muted, I should be able to see it. Otherwise, their voice is effectively being silenced. We can label it whatever we like, but that is the impact it has on the person.
You can likely make an argument for outright blocking some of the known havens / instances for racist and other vile stuff, but we start getting into a slippery slope pretty quick.
@JoshStrobl Even if their account is limited, they'd still be able to respond to your posts, and you'd still be able to see it.
@mike @hyde @kev @aral That was not the case. Aral was replying and mentioning me, I did not see their posts. I went to their profile, they were not muted or blocked, rather it presented the screen that I took a screenshot of above. 
Once I followed them, I was able to see their replies and their profile again.
@JoshStrobl That's because you weren't following him.
Yes, that is what I am trying to get at. Why was he limited in the first place? I get that you are under no obligation to actually communicate the reasons behind your administration. Your house, your rules after all. But is someone that has been advocating for open source and open platforms since 2013 / 2014 (at least first time I heard of him with Indie) really the sort of person that deserves to be "limited"?
@JoshStrobl He verbally attacked other people, some members of the Fosstodon community. I wasn't the one that limited the account, but I do believe that the fact that he is a FOSS advocate that's fairly well known is the reason the account wasn't just blocked entirely. The fact that he's a FOSS advocate doesn't give him a get out of jail free card.
@mike @JoshStrobl @hyde @kev Can you please show me the posts where I “verbally attacked” members of your server. I’d love to have the context and the actual posts instead of a vague accusation.
@aral you're rude to people on the regular. Your posts are littered with obnoxious comments to a variety of people; that's probably why you were limited. Being an advocate doesn't give you carte blanche to be a dick to people.
Not gonna provide specific examples as that won't be productive, and would only result in further "debate". I'm sure we all have more interesting things to be doing; I know I do.
Speaking of which...
@kev @mike @JoshStrobl @hyde The irony being that your instance, in addition to its “no advocacy” and “don’t talk publicly about controversial issues” rules also has a “no tone policing” rule.
But you know what, people know what’s what.
Here’s someone I don’t believe I know personally who sees things exactly as they are:
https://social.tchncs.de/@frankiesaxx/110706412209807434
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I’m off on for a few days for a wedding. Will deal with this properly when I’m back. You’re doing free software a disservice by attempting to gentrify it and by silencing folks who advocate for human rights and democracy. It’s your instance, you’re allowed to do that. But people are also allowed to know about it and decide whether they want to be limited by your world view.
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@kev @mike @JoshStrobl @hyde (And you still haven’t provided posts or context. Just accusations of “verbally attacked” and “are rude to”. It says something when Twitter’s moderation actually does a better job of informing someone why exactly an action has been taken.)
But when twitter is moderating someone it will be someone with an account on twitter servers. Your account is not on the fosstodon server, so you are not really owed any kind of visibility on it, or any explanation when that visibility is limited.
They might own an explanation to the people on their server when a moderation decision breaks follow relationships, and definitely own an explanation when moderating the people on their server.
I started out on fosstodon, and it's clear enough in their CoC that they are special interest server trying to have a chill space for people to geek out and chat about foss/tech, so I can understand why they have the no advocacy rule.
You are a bit aggressive with you advocacy
(rightfully so, Google, Meta, etc. are aggressive in what they do, and we need aggressive voices on our side to fight that.)
so it shouldn't be too surprising that some servers will limit or block you account/server.
All that being said, I do follow you, enjoy and get value from what you posts, and think what you do is important.
Enjoy the wedding, enjoy the time off, and don't worry yourself too much about the moderation decisions of one server.
@aral @kev @mike @JoshStrobl @hyde happy wedding Aral! Your wedding is much more important than #fedora or #mastodon or #socialmedia in general
@kev @aral @mike @JoshStrobl @hyde This sounds personal. You should not be a moderator. I mean, if you own the joint, then that’s the title the software gives you, but I mean in the traditional sense, you clearly don’t have the disposition for moderating.
@kev @aral @hyde @JoshStrobl @mike More importantly, it’s just very clear that you (and I’m talking about the fosstodon team in general, I don’t know if it’s just the two of you, or what) have allowed your worldview to pollute your decision making, but there’s 17,000 people and all of their followers who are impacted by those decisions, not just you.
Just do the right thing and hand it off to someone who can be impartial admins/mods of a community, or clearly you’re in the wrong game.
@gordoooo_z @kev @mike @hyde @aral
Can we not get our pitchforks and torches out? Maybe take a step back from all of this and try to come up with constructive improvements and productive actionable items that can be made beyond telling folks to "hand off" their instance, with claims of lack of impartiality?
This discussion started with me simply trying to identity an issue with reach and has spiraled into a conversation that is more emotionally charged than it really should be.
@gordoooo_z @JoshStrobl @kev @hyde Thank you for your input. We'll take it into consideration.