Who do you trust more?
(yea, I know, neither, but if you had to pick ONE of them)
@mike Microsoft. They at least have SOME sort of business model other than "spy on everyone and sell that data to the highest bidder".
@gamey Yea, that's why I thought it would be an interesting question. It's kind of a "which is the LESSER evil" kind of scenario.
@mike It's a interesting thought but I think at some point the tiny differences aren't enough to even think about them differently. I mean both go against the right for privacy every person needs to keep a democracy working and if someone has that data the state isn't far specially in Silicon valley the long arm of the Pentagon 🤷♂️
@gamey Yep, it's a hard choice. Honestly, it's a "nerdy" variation on the Trolley Problem. But if you had to pick ONE of them?
@mike A detailed blog post about that would be really interesting but it would probably require days or weeks of research to get it right. I think I am to deep in the rabbithole to choose ether one of them as even a tiny bit trustworthy so I really can't say which I trust more :D
@mike tough one. i think i sort of trust microsoft more because at least they never 'pretended' not to be 'evil' (or a normal for-profit corporation etc) 🤔
Google, at least they open source most of their stuff. Being stabbed in the chest rather than from the shadows I suppose.
@mike Google seems to be more up front about what they do. Microsoft tries to position itself as more respectful of privacy, but they really aren't. At least I know what I'm getting with Google.
I am doing microsoft as i simply feel like they are providing the better product. Obviusly i don't trust them, but even if they sre evil gsmes least works very well on windows so i will give them that
@jrballesteros05 Very similar question. If asked, I'd prefer to be shot in the left foot over the right since I'm right handed, and I have better agility/dexterity on my right side. It would be easier to get around with my right foot intact. Obviously neither is a good option, but if you NEED to make a choice between two horrible options, I'm sure reasons can be found to go one way or the other.
@mike Ok. In the personal way I would answer the same. I won't choose any of them and I will look for other options. Fortunately there are options and I can choose.
In the job I had to choose between Google and Microsoft and I have chosen Google just because its cloud was much cheaper than other options, not because I trust them. There is also the option about how sensitive is your data, Google does lives from data so in that case I would choose Microsoft.
@mike I've been staring at this post for the past 10 minutes, I can't bring myself to vote for either of them ... but I'm interestd on the final result.
So, I'll just lurk on the comments
@mike I trust Google to start Judgement Day.
I trust Microsoft to make the software fail on Judgement Day so the Earth is left barren with non-functioning Terminators.
@mike Google intentionally tries to take info and is too quiet and efficient for my liking. Microsoft does the same but they tend to be loud, noisy, and observable. If you've ever been chased by security or police, you'd know the second kind makes your escape much easier. (I don't recommend getting chased by security people lol)
@mike I tossed a coin and picked Google. I agree with most replies to your post, it’s really hard choosing between these two 😕
@mike Microsoft is not ad supported (afik). Thus they have slightly less of a reason to spy on you (they still do, but possibly to a lesser extent)
The part you want is about two thirds of the way down under Bing Loves You
@mike @david I think you might be able to do google search results through RSS, but I'm not sure if this is exactly what you want. (https://www.labnol.org/internet/rss-feeds-for-google-searches/19944/)
@mike that's tricky because you can think of trust in terms of "how opposed to my interests will this entity act" or "will this entity behave predictably in my interactions with them". Microsoft has the win on "choosing evil every time" but also seems less likely to stab one in the back changing the rules of the game
@mike I just can't do it. I don't trust either and to me there is very little difference between them making a vote for me feel impossible to choose.
I don't think there's enough context to answer that question.
You'd need to say trust them in what area. Microsoft has problems managing Azure, but is better at providing business process services for organizations.
But Google's network and authentication systems are better.
Both of them work with government agencies accused of human rights abuses.
@alienghic Intentionally vague. Was curious how things would add up for people. If they had to make a call with very little information, which way would they lean. Context would allow people to focus on a particular aspect without looking at the companies as wholes.
@mike ehh, both are a lesser evil than Facebook but I’d say they’re on the same level as each other, recently Microsoft has really become a wannabe Google ever since Windows 10’s “telemetry”.
I don't know. It depends on what I'm trusting them with.
I trust Google to be better with open source software in general but Microsoft Bing Maps is cool with OSM so I kinda trust them more in that department.
@mike what is Interesting is there was a time where I totally would have trusted Google over Microsoft. However Google has gone so far into creepy, that I'd prefer a planned gestapo of suits I know is evil.
The devil you know versus the devil you don't know
@mike Wow, I would never have thought that it would come this far.
People really think Microsoft is more trustworthy than Google?
Well if you're living in the USA, maybe...
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